By the looks at the number of views, this forum entitled "trading systems" is a bit sick. The overwhelming majority are for DS. Can this even be called a system? Any thread of any respectable content gets quickly moved to the bottom as the DS maintains it's status on top. I'm not posting blame to the site itself, but to the market that is drawn to this site. Education, trading systems (real ones), intellectual topics, and basic trading principles are not a central point of this entire forum. Sorry to see it has gone this route...maybe that's why I get frustrated. Yahoo garbage forums are for this kind of rhetoric. I know, I can always ignore.....but the side effect is that those posters having any respectable content are less likely to post. I find myself chiming in to the incessant "dribble" as well. Maybe I misunderstood the name of the site or confused it from "trader's and investors sharing ideas" to stock/program/pumpanddumpchasersRus. Admin, this is your site. It will/has evolve(d) to become a reflection of it's owner. Not sure if this is what you had in mind. I would say it is a reflection of the posters, but the vets are the one's screaming against what is going on.