November 2006 Trading Simulator contest - First Prize $100.00

[Thierry Martin]

I have set up another trading simulator for November - 1st prize is $100, 2nd and 3rd prizes are trading books.

If you already played in previous competitions, you already have an account and your can just continue trading, your portfolio will be set back to $100,000.

If you are new to the simulator, you can join at anytime up to November 23. You must use the same username as you use here. This thread will be used to discuss the game and post updates on the standings.

You start with $100,000 and you can trade stocks long or short. We are not trading options anymore, as they made the results swing wildly both ways. Whoever has the highest amount at the close of trading on October 31, 2006 wins.

The trading simulator/contest is open only to registered members of this forum. (Registering is free!)

Send me a private message (http://www.cramersmadmoney.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=1) and I will send you the link for your free sign up.

[TonyM]

Short selling is not enabled according to the Investopedia....you owe me a few k :wink:

[Thierry Martin]

Short selling is not enabled according to the Investopedia....you owe me a few k :wink:

Short selling IS enabled - we have a "premium" account that I pay for. It is not the same setup as the free contests that they run.

[TonyM]

Short selling IS enabled - we have a "premium" account that I pay for. It is not the same setup as the free contests that they run.

Well I don't know what to tell you...that's the message I get, I tried it 3 times.

[TonyM]

Here's a screen shot of the message box;

Invalid Trade: No Short Sales Sorry, no short selling is allowed in this group. In our simulator each game can be created with different characteristics. This game in particular does not allow short selling. If you wish to trade short, join another game that has this feature under the "groups" tab.

[TonyM]

I'm about ready to say Uncle this month...it won't let me buy $99k worth of a stock...says I have insufficient funds....although it shows the $100k I started with and I haven't made a trade yet?

[Thierry Martin]

I'm about ready to say Uncle this month...it won't let me buy $99k worth of a stock...says I have insufficient funds....although it shows the $100k I started with and I haven't made a trade yet?

Their technical support is looking at the setup because there are some anomolies. Something is screwy, will let you know when it is fixed. We might have to start this month's contest tomorrow. This happened last month also.

[TonyM]

Their technical support is looking at the setup because there are some anomolies. Something is screwy, will let you know when it is fixed. We might have to start this month's contest tomorrow. This happened last month also.

What a major bummer dude, I could have locked in $16k if that short trade had gone through, damn those Investopedia fools. Hey, while you're yacking with them, tell them that 20 minute delay is really a pia when trying to catch a momentum play, I'm usually ready to sell before my buy order even goes through. Wonder what else I can bitch about that's free? :wink:

[krazykowboy]

What a major bummer dude, I could have locked in $16k if that short trade had gone through, damn those Investopedia fools. Hey, while you're yacking with them, tell them that 20 minute delay is really a pia when trying to catch a momentum play, I'm usually ready to sell before my buy order even goes through. Wonder what else I can bitch about that's free? :wink:
Even a genie only gives three wishes ! I think yer quotas up! LMAO :lol:

[krazykowboy]

The investin simulator won't even let me log in, so what ya got ta be cryin' bout?

[Empire]

...not letting me sign in this morning, either. "General Authentication Error."

[Jordan]

...not letting me sign in this morning, either. "General Authentication Error."

Same here

[pibesusa]

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How about moving to MarketWatch VSE?

http://vse.marketwatch.com/Game/Homepage.aspx


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[Empire]

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How about moving to MarketWatch VSE?

http://vse.marketwatch.com/Game/Homepage.aspx


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that looks pretty cool actually. I'm going to mess around on it and report back.

[Empire]

bah--investopedia is just getting worse. I've seen market orders not processing for a whole hour, random 'security not trading' order failures on stocks that obviously are, bid/ask prices not hitting that I know hit on yahoo/any other service (I'm talking 5-cent differences that caused orders to never go through), and as previously stated, no short orders no matter the price. I duno, maybe I'm just being a bitch. Nevertheless, I've been toying around with VSE and it's pretty damn efficient. It doesn't trade options but we're not doing that anymore anyways.

[Thierry Martin]

OK, there are enough problems that I don't believe the game is fair so I am cancelling this game and starting a new one at MarketWatch.

Just email me if you want to join, I have sent an email to all the current players.

The contest starts now so you should register and get your orders in. Sorry for the inconvenience, but the new platform seems to work much better.

Good luck, everyone!

[TonyM]

See what I get for complaining?...I nab the lead and he cancels the game!

Just giving you a hard time Thierry:p

[pibesusa]

That's a great idea Thierry!

I've seen many contests in the past with VIP guests (CEOs, former NYSE insiders, analysts etc).

MarketWatch VSE is impeccable and is always up and running.

[aiki14]

The registration process is easy and the platform looks pretty good. I am in.

[TheChartGuru]

Thierry, I haven't received your e-mail. Please sign me up for the new simulator.
Thanks brother

[MoMoney4Me]

You think you're frustrated, geeeeesh !
I got Thierry's email, followed the link to Marketwatch VSE and tried to register as a new member, but I get a message that user account already exists. I've never been on that website before.
Maybe I'll just sit this one out, jeepers !!

[MoMoney4Me]

Ok, forget that. i just kept working at it until I got it right. I'm in now, let the game begin ! :lol:

[Empire]

Thierry, I haven't received your e-mail. Please sign me up for the new simulator.
Thanks brother

ditto! :cool:

[Svenwulf]

i set up a vse account, even logged in and checked out a few other games over the weekend. now i get bad screen name/ password message. i tried to fix it myself with a password reset, but i keep getting the bad s/n or pass message. also, as a side note, my long running investopedia account was lost when Thierry moved his game. have to redo my registration like i was never there. but i still get their term of the day mail and other junk- very odd. anyhow good luck all, and thanks again Thierry for helping to keep us all interested!

[reef]

AW MAN!!!!!!!! My stocks were up big today too!!! FNSR and SIRI!!




Not like it matters, I STILL HAVE NOT BEEN PAID for winning in August!! :evil: :evil:

[Thierry Martin]

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[pibesusa]

AW MAN!!!!!!!! My stocks were up big today too!!! FNSR and SIRI!!


Not like it matters, I STILL HAVE NOT BEEN PAID for winning in August!! :evil: :evil:


maybe it's just investing money... so you start with $100,100.- your next month.. :mrgreen:

[Thierry Martin]

AW MAN!!!!!!!! My stocks were up big today too!!! FNSR and SIRI!![/SIZE]

Not like it matters, I STILL HAVE NOT BEEN PAID for winning in August!! :evil: :evil:


You will get paid the same day that I get paid for the advertising owed to me for August, which should be any day now.

[reef]

You will get paid the same day that I get paid for the advertising owed to me for August, which should be any day now.


Well if you would have told me that sooner, oh let's say a month ago or the 3rd, 4th or 5th time I asked about it, I would have been more patient.:evil:

[reef]

I also did not recieve an email about the switch, can you PM me the details?

[Thierry Martin]

Well if you would have told me that sooner, oh let's say a month ago or the 3rd, 4th or 5th time I asked about it, I would have been more patient.:evil:

The people that pay me didn't warn me that I would have to wait 90 days to be paid after they were invoiced.

I understand you are frustrated, but I don't need for this kind of abuse. I'm going to continue the contests but after this month there will be no more prizes.

[aiki14]

Don't sweat it T, the prizes are meaningless, what's a hundred clams compared to the thrill of victory. Of course I would be willing to put a couple bucks up to play in a winner take all kind of thing, I wonder if that would be against the gambling laws?

[Empire]

Not to be a nub or anything, but I'm curious how much the advertising brings in. How much is the $100 comparable to what's coming in? Which is not to say you're work torwards the forum isn't 100% appreciated and you don't deserve more than whatever that sum is; I'm just curious.

I'd also be into the winner-take-all idea, actually. Very cool idea.

[Thierry Martin]

Not to be a nub or anything, but I'm curious how much the advertising brings in. How much is the $100 comparable to what's coming in? Which is not to say you're work torwards the forum isn't 100% appreciated and you don't deserve more than whatever that sum is; I'm just curious.

I'd also be into the winner-take-all idea, actually. Very cool idea.

I own and operate 22 financial websites, and some of the advertising runs across all the sites, so it is very difficult to have a profit/loss statement on a site by site basis. Some months we are ahead, and some months we are in the hole. The last couple of months have been very difficult, because I was misled into believing some payments were coming in and they have been delayed. Overall all my opeations taken together are profitable, but because I have been investing heavily in new projects, our cash flow is erratic. I take responsibility for the late payments, but enjoying life is my number one priority, and if I have made myself vulerable to attacks, I will change the situation to avoid this kind of grief.

[Empire]

I own and operate 22 financial websites, and some of the advertising runs across all the sites, so it is very difficult to have a profit/loss statement on a site by site basis. Some months we are ahead, and some months we are in the hole. The last couple of months have been very difficult, because I was misled into believing some payments were coming in and they have been delayed. Overall all my opeations taken together are profitable, but because I have been investing heavily in new projects, our cash flow is erratic. I take responsibility for the late payments, but enjoying life is my number one priority, and if I have made myself vulerable to attacks, I will change the situation to avoid this kind of grief.

Thierry my man. I totally respect what you're doing and all, but does one person's online sarcasm really get to you that much that it affects your overall sense of well being? The $100 is insignificant; it was nice of you to ever do it. I'd assume once you get up from the chair it's really not much of a strain. It is a forum, afterall; and reef really didn't seem (to me at least) all that hostile.

[Thierry Martin]

Thierry my man. I totally respect what you're doing and all, but does one person's online sarcasm really get to you that much that it affects your overall sense of well being? The $100 is insignificant; it was nice of you to ever do it. I'd assume once you get up from the chair it's really not much of a strain. It is a forum, afterall; and reef really didn't seem (to me at least) all that hostile.

This is getting blown out of proportion. Everyone will get their prizes. My overall sense of well being is fine. Normally $100 is not much of a strain, when you're missing several thousand dollars it is a lot.

[aiki14]

GROUP CYBER HUG:wink:

[TonyM]

GROUP CYBER HUG:wink:

That sounds very Democratic, Republicans would fix this problem with good old cash, Libertarians would all be packing heat and everyone would keeep their mouth shut accordingly.:p

The new simulator is much better (I haven't traded with it it yet, but by all other indications it looks like a vast improvement)

[krazykowboy]

Yeh, when i get picked on, i get mad and take my toys home too :lol:

[krazykowboy]

GROUP CYBER HUG:wink:
oh no ya dont, you dont know me like that :roll:

[Thierry Martin]

Yeh, when i get picked on, i get mad and take my toys home too :lol:

I'm not mad about anything. I am guilty! And what's the big deal?

[Thierry Martin]

Actually, I've thought about this, and I will keep the prizes for the contests. And I hope reef confirms here when he receives his long overdue check.

[reef]

Thierry, I did not attack you, I asked several times and I felt blown off. If you had made it clear before on the reason, I wouldn't have posted what I did......

To some of you that $100 is meaningless, but I have been unemployed because of neck surgery last January, so it actually means alot to me.



I think it would be a huge overreaction to stop giving prizes just because someone in my financial situation got a little impatient. :?

[reef]

I also would like to play on the new site or am I not invited since I bitched about the money? I didnt get an email............

[pibesusa]

Thierry, I'm new here, and I really appreciate what you do. I'm a web designer myself and understand that even though it is a forum.. it's hard work keep it up and running.

did you say 22 sites? WWOOOW! you're the man :!:

the $100 prize for some people is symbolic, but for some students like me, we buy food, and eat the whole month with just that! so thank you..

For the people who asked before, most of the publicity on web sites are based on the "pay-per-click" scheme.

Good luck everybody.. I'm ranked 2nd today... but how long will it last!?!

[Thierry Martin]

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[pibesusa]

great trading day 4 me :x ... from #1 possition to the last one.. in just one day!
who beats that!?!

[Empire]

great trading day 4 me :x ... from #1 possition to the last one.. in just one day!
who beats that!?!

haha! I feel ya man, I really do. Hey, now I'm not in last! haha! No worries, tomorrow is another day for me to sell into the csco strength.8)

[krazykowboy]

Actually, I've thought about this, and I will keep the prizes for the contests. And I hope reef confirms here when he receives his long overdue check.

maybe i will, hmm, maybe i won't
dang Thierry, ya been smokin sum o that wacky backy ?

[A new study has found similarities between the brains of adolescents who smoke marijuana regularly and adolescents with schizophrenia.]

jest kiddin pardner, at yer expense o course no offense
yer doin a fine job :p

[aiki14]

maybe i will, hmm, maybe i won't
dang Thierry, ya been smokin sum o that wacky backy ?

[A new study has found similarities between the brains of adolescents who smoke marijuana regularly and adolescents with schizophrenia.]



Hey, I smoked marijuana as an adolescent, and so did I, me too.

[krazykowboy]

Hey, I smoked marijuana as an adolescent, and so did I, me too.

thar ya go, prime xample
[actually, its MPD multiple personality disorder]

rabbit backy bout as high as i ever been, septin that thar time da bull kicked me in da seat and sent me bout 20 feet strate up

[MoMoney4Me]

rabbit backy bout as high as i ever been, septin that thar time da bull kicked me in da seat and sent me bout 20 feet strate up

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[Thierry Martin]

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[Thierry Martin]

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[TonyM]

There seems to be a flaw; I don't see a way to modify an order once it is placed, am I missing something or is this just the way it is?

I'm not complaining, so don't cancel the game again Thierry:p

[krazykowboy]

hey aiki14,,, dat was a smooth move on EFUT in da last hour today,,, nice !

[Albert0373]

Is it too late to join? I'd like to participate =]

albert03@gobot.com

[Thierry Martin]

There seems to be a flaw; I don't see a way to modify an order once it is placed, am I missing something or is this just the way it is?

I'm not complaining, so don't cancel the game again Thierry:p

I'm not sure, but I imagine they wouldn't allow it, just as with a real broker you can't cancel a trade (unless it hasn't been executed, which usually happens within seconds.)

[TonyM]

I'm not sure, but I imagine they wouldn't allow it, just as with a real broker you can't cancel a trade (unless it hasn't been executed, which usually happens within seconds.)

No, I'm talking about modifying or cancelling a limit order that has not executed. No matter, I just wasn't aware that once an order is placed it can't be changed.

[aiki14]

It's to prevent someone with real time quotes from manipulating their picks.

[MoMoney4Me]

No, I'm talking about modifying or cancelling a limit order that has not executed. No matter, I just wasn't aware that once an order is placed it can't be changed.

If it's not executed, you can cancel it , then go back and enter a new order with the changed specifications. Of course you're still limited to the 20 minute delay on the cancelled order too, it will show pending for the time delay. After it's cancelled you can place the new one and wait another 20 minutes for it to be confirmed.

[TonyM]

If it's not executed, you can cancel it , then go back and enter a new order with the changed specifications. Of course you're still limited to the 20 minute delay on the cancelled order too, it will show pending for the time delay. After it's cancelled you can place the new one and wait another 20 minutes for it to be confirmed.

I must be going blind...I see the orders tab now, thanks.

[Amnion]

Either aiki needs to be banned from the contest or he needs to let me in on his picks before he places them. :D

Give us a little chance will ya!

[ub3rn00ber]

Has anyone gotten there book? Because Thierry ripped me off... its been over a month and still no book! wtf?

[aiki14]

Has anyone gotten there book? Because Thierry ripped me off... its been over a month and still no book! wtf?

You're kidding right?

[Thierry Martin]

Has anyone gotten there book? Because Thierry ripped me off... its been over a month and still no book! wtf?

I'm about 3 months behind with the books and the prizes, for both the monthly and weekly contests. We will send out everything shortly, as soon as I receive an advertising check long overdue.

The books are already purchased, and sitting right here in my office, but it costs me about $10 a book to ship them, so I need my money before sending them. Sorry about the delay, it shouldn't happen again after this batch. If I have any more cash flow problems, I will cancel the prizes for future contests, but I don't think that will be necessary.

Everybody will get their prizes, obviously.

[Thierry Martin]

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[pibesusa]

aiki14, can I send you my bank info so you can donate some extra MarketWatch money you don't need!??

seriously,
pibesusa.

[aiki14]

I couldn't get on today and have 10000 short at 29.00 and I think I am down to 26k or -74% for the contest. Gave back a bundle in real money as well, went from up 11k to up 5100. Ouch.

[TonyM]

I couldn't get on today and have 10000 short at 29.00 and I think I am down to 26k or -74% for the contest. Gave back a bundle in real money as well, went from up 11k to up 5100. Ouch.

I saw that drop in the game, I was hoping you were able to cover your real shares quicker than you did the game. If it's any consolation, I was getting ready to pull the trigger at about $36 when I got called away from the pc...came back a few minutes later and it was at $46 headed to $48....yeah I'm bummed. Waiting for another good entry point, I'm loathe to pay over $40 with today's volatility though.

[aiki14]

I saw that drop in the game, I was hoping you were able to cover your real shares quicker than you did the game. If it's any consolation, I was getting ready to pull the trigger at about $36 when I got called away from the pc...came back a few minutes later and it was at $46 headed to $48....yeah I'm bummed. Waiting for another good entry point, I'm loathe to pay over $40 with today's volatility though.

I took another short at 47 and got in at 47.38, had a panic attack but held out, looking good now but I wont be leaving the computer unless the house is on fire. stop in at 43, makes me back about half of the drop.

[aiki14]

back long at 42.80

[aiki14]

sell @ 44

[aiki14]

short @ 45.65 if it gets there

[aiki14]

Unbelievable volatility sell at 44 traded at 44.47

[aiki14]

back short at 45.80

[aiki14]

buy to close at 44 stop loss at 46 any bets?

[Thierry Martin]

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[aiki14]

I'M BAAACK!!! :p

[Albert0373]

554.28%+ ??? Wow..

[aiki14]

554.28%+ ??? Wow..
It's not all that great, I didn't trade except to get out of the short I was caught in two days ago. I ran 180k down to 25k when it gapped up monday night against my short, it ended up covering at 30.80 before close today.

[thatcatjc]

i think one of my stocks was documented as falling over sixty points -

put me in 25th somehow- i think an extra digit fell in there or i missed something......

could you check this out? thanks

[ub3rn00ber]

Oh, thats cool. I just though you forgot.

[Thierry Martin]

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[pibesusa]

oook. I deleted cookies so now I have to log-in once again to the VSE. but now i don't remember my account info. so.. my game is over until next month when I create a new account.

I hope my 25% return helps me to make the top 3

Good luck everybody.

[Thierry Martin]

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[Thierry Martin]

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[pibesusa]

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Well, it seems that I'll have to eat rice, bread and tap water this month..

Congratulations aiki14! I hope the 2nd place book I won today will help me to beat you in the future.

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[TonyM]

I was playing for the highest total with fewest trades title...what'd I win Thierry?:lol:

[aiki14]

Well, pretty good month. My best ever in real life as well. Thierry if you would be so kind to get the info from GDFLS, I'd like to donate my prize to his Northern Breed Dog Rescue. Thanks

[bahroor]

well done Jim!

[Thierry Martin]

Congratulations aiki14, pibesusa and bthomas100!

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[Thierry Martin]

The December contest is the same deal and if you were participating in the November contest you can join the December contest with the same username and password by going here (http://vse.marketwatch.com/Game/StartViewGame.aspx?id=CramersMadMoney_Dec)

If you are new just send me a private message (http://www.cramersmadmoney.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=1) and I will send you the link for your free sign up.