Doubling Stocks... Let's Decide... Together

[microhedge]

As the "Stock Trading Robot Any Good" thread received some good attention with 443 views, I am starting this thread and will keep it alive for one reason...

We can all analyze "Doubling Stocks" together8)

I paid for the subscription and supposedly will get picks on Sundays, as soon as I get them I will post them on this thread for your review. That way we can all review and decide... scam or real.

So again, you will have them minutes after I have them (unless I am out of town, and I will say so).

Here's to Doubling Stocks and seeing if I can even get my subscription price back8O

BTW, they sent a "freebie" that you may have caught me post in the other thread... SSTP... currently up .01 to .05

[microhedge]

And here is the link to the "Penny Stocks Bible" that came with my subscription... I haven't read it yet, but I am sure it is a wealth of overused worthless information, check it out yourself...

www.doublingstocks.com/pennystocks.pdf

[Albert0373]

Cool, let's test this sucker out.

[microhedge]

Just skimmed through the Penny Stock Bible... wow! Pile of @#%@#$$^&*!

Not that bad I guess, if you've never traded before... very elementary and interestingly enough all the screen shots were from a 3 day period in July of '02 and this MARL robot stock picker came out in early '07... hmmmm

When are these marketers going to at least get all their ducks in a row if they want to keep getting customers?

Did you see some of my initial posts in the "Robot.." thread Thierry started? I provided two different links that were selling the same think and were hilariously contradictive on the founding partners, names and dates:lol:

[Aragorn]

I'm a member of DoublingStocks too since 2 weeks.
I received the next email yesterday:

I was searching with Google yesterday for people's personal opinions on www.DoublingStocks.com ...

I came across a blogger whom is so excited with recent profits earned from a DoublingStocks trade... He has created a blog with the intent of recording his path to $1 million:

http://getresponse.com/t/8674717/620551/166240390/

Reading that site made my day.

Best Regards,
Michael Cohen


Don't know why Michael was so excited about this blog.
There was only ONE message and that one was from April this year.
The responses to that message are pretty negative.
I feel more doubts about DS every day.

[microhedge]

For those interested... I am supposed to be getting the first pick tomorrow from the infamous MARL, I will post as soon as I receive it.

Apparently the idea is a pre-market buy for those of you who are brave enough because the claim is the money is to be made in the first 30min of trading.

Until then...8)

[big_bear_yeah]

on my watch list :wink:

[microhedge]

6:00pm MST... No word from Michael and MARL so far... no great pick for MONDAY yet

Hmmmmmmmmm, maybe MARL has a virus

Aragorn, got that cute little link too (posted previously), just a fake blog set up as part of the marketing campaign

[Stin]

probably still busy crunching all the numbers!;)

[microhedge]

9:00pm MST, nothing but the standard email re-soliciting my business...

I think this may be a dead end road, I'll give it one more week.

Until then...

[Aragorn]

Did anyone searched for the address mentioned on the website and mails?
Go to Google Maps and do a search for:
12 Well Ridge Close
Whitley Bay
Tyne and Wear NE25 9PN
United Kingdom

What you will see is a small town near Newcastle.
The street (Well Ridge Close) is a street with large stand alone houses.

Oh and by the way Michael's company "Doubling Stocks" is located at 12 Well Ridge Close, Whitley Bay (United Kingdom). That's right across from City Hall and exactly opposite the Public Library. His Post Code is NE25 9PN. If you have any questions, you can email him at support@doublingstocks.com or call him on (44)7835400828.
There is no sight of the "only white house" in the street.

I can be wrong about this and maybe someone in England will tell me I'm wrong because there is more than 1 Whitley Bay's in England.
Otherwise the given address is BS!
And if they lie about there address they will lie about all the other stuff too.

[microhedge]

Agreed, this thread has turned into an on going thread of seeing just how fake Doubling Stocks is... it was spawned from an earlier thread asking about Doubling Stocks validity, so I thought the best way to find out was to sign up and keep everyone updated.

Thanks for the research Aragorn, it bodes well with the other info we've gathered... doesn't surprise me one bit:roll:

[microhedge]

Just for fun I thought I would post the recent email that popped into my inbox....

from Michael <support@doublingstocks.com> hide details 9:22 pm (0 minutes ago)
reply-to noreply@noreply.com
to microhedge XXXXXXXX@gmail.com>
date Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:22:47 UT
subject DoublingStocks Important news!
signed-by getresponse.com
mailed-by citius.getresponse.com

Microhedge,

This is Michael, I apologize this weeks pick has been slightly
delayed but I think your going to like the reason...

It is absolutely vital that you watch your emails
over the next few coming days.

Marl has identified a stock which has been trading in a very
predictable range, which is all but certain to run back up to
its 52 week high!

But that's not all...

We have also went above and beyond Marls recommendation and
discovered a number of fundamental factors which we believe could
take this stock to dizzy heights.

It's an almost too obvious pick -- I'm fairly sure some of the more
experienced of you will already be watching this stock...

We are currently waiting for the best entry point, stay tuned!

Best Regards,
Michael

PS. Please add us to your address book/contact list to ensure you
always get our emails.

Global Marketing Corporation
12 Well Ridge Close
Whitley Bay
Tyne and Wear NE25 9PN
United Kingdom

[microhedge]

Wait... don't tell me... Eternal Image?!!:lol:

[max2007]

Now, wouldnt that make our day. :p

haha

[stockviper]

Wait... don't tell me... Eternal Image?!!:lol:

Microhedge! Very Good. !!

oh, and we are known in Germany....

http://www.ad-hoc-news.de/CorporateNews/en/13406566/Eternal-Image-CEO-Clint-Mytych-Named-One-of-Crain's-Detroit

[microhedge]

I got this FREEBIE from my PAID subscription... hmmmm

VYGO... Voyager Petroleum

Good ole MARL says double or triple shortly:wink:

[Luc1Grunt]

What happened to the original poster of the doubling stocks link? I think I called it out and got some spin about blah, blah, blah.

Sounds like a solid group, ha!

Thanks for the update hedge.

[max2007]

VYGO is up 42%,
If only i knew.......

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[microhedge]

That's why I posted last night:wink:

[max2007]

ok ok,
let me re-phrase

if only i hadn't gone to music practice last night.. hahaha

good call Hedge!

Max

[microhedge]

VYGO crawling sideways on heavy volume, you didn't miss much8O

[Amnion]

Enough people must belong to that letter in order for it too move like it has today.

[microhedge]

like any good newsletter, they're testing their weight in the market and their ability to influence small timers with dirt cheap stocks.

Good news alerts can really move these small caps significantly and you can ride the predictable wave nicely:wink:

[microhedge]

when I say "good" I don't mean "quality" I just mean influential

[max2007]

What ever makes it rise, im down with that...:mrgreen:

[microhedge]

yup, pump and dump can pump alot of cash in my account if I'm careful:wink:

[WhiteDragon32]

ok i have marl's suggestion for tomorrow. i have legal access to marl and NO i don't have any affiliation to them out side of the fact that i applied to there news letter. they gave me a test version of there marl. basically the do all there tests on the one that i have and then make the changes to the ones the people spent 28k on. but the one for tomorrow is BIDZ so lets watch it and see.
Marl is also still suggesting VYGO so lets watch that too. i might be reading Marl wrong about the VYGO so don't kill me if it tanks. but I am sure that i read it right about the BIDZ stock.

[microhedge]

...basically the do all there tests on the one that i have and then make the changes to the ones the people spent 28k on

Trust me, no one spent 28k on their systems!!! We have already established they are a complete and udder hoax through their series of 100% contradictory misinformation of absolutely everything about them and their origins.

All we care about is if they become influential enough as a newsletter to affect movement of penny stocks like the hototc.com and otcstockexchange.com, etc.,

BIDZ has long been a moving no-brainer as they make increasing profit, carry no debt and have solid inside ownership.

Keep truckin and keep postin the info WD, just don't fall for their further sales gimmick.

They called this bit of info last night on VYGO... http://getresponse.com/t/9414440/620551/191503159/

[dbdbarry]

was BIDZ officially picked for today in their newsletter? if so, it went up almost a point and a half today. Also, did they give any exit points? What's the exit point for VYGO/BIDZ?

[WhiteDragon32]

Still saying BIDZ

[microhedge]

WD, cut the crap! You don't have a test version of MARL any more than I do!!

Doubling Stocks is a newsletter about... PENNY STOCKS!!!!!! Penny Stocks that are supposed to DOUBLE or close to it within the first 20-30miutes of market open... thus the term DOUBLING STOCKS!!!!!!!!!! They also promote their worthless PENNY STOCK BIBLE!! OTCBB and PINKies!

If you want to remind buyers of BIDZ as a real heads up, put it in a different thread, on the right board.

[CarlJ]

I also signed up for the Doublingstocks Newsletter. I signed up on 4 sept and have gotten the same emails as posted in this thread.
I found the pennystockbible informative which from what I gather says more about my experience with trading than it does about the pennystockbible.

So I haven't yet made a trade since I had to get an account set up and funded and that is still in process .
It is my understanding that the "subscribers" will be told when to sell, has anyone seen that happen or do they just give you the picks and let you figure it out yourself?

Here's something I found which doesn't give me a good feeling.
"Doubling Stocks was compensated $5,000 to promote IWWI.OB" (http://www.pennystocksblog.net/labels/IWWI.html)

[WhiteDragon32]

WD, cut the crap! You don't have a test version of MARL any more than I do!!

Doubling Stocks is a newsletter about... PENNY STOCKS!!!!!! Penny Stocks that are supposed to DOUBLE or close to it within the first 20-30miutes of market open... thus the term DOUBLING STOCKS!!!!!!!!!! They also promote their worthless PENNY STOCK BIBLE!! OTCBB and PINKies!

If you want to remind buyers of BIDZ as a real heads up, put it in a different thread, on the right board.

i don't know y people have to be such jerks on a tread just because they think they know it all.
HERE is what i sent them and then what they sent me.

i keep getting a mysql error that states that it can't connect to the mysql server on '69.16.242.83' (10060)
that is my error that keeps happening. and i do have my router port forwarded and i am using that port/ip address and have had no problems with any other program that needs port forwarding.
Do i need to be concerned about this error?
or do you already have a back up ip that it connects to?

this is what they sent be back.

Hello,

Ive looked into this for you and made the necesary changes please unistall that version
of Marl. And download and install this one: (link removed because i paid for the trial version)
Please then email and let me know how it went.

Best Regards
Michael

yes it was stupid to get the trial version but i DO have it.

here is the email that they sent to to buy it.

Just yesterday you were one of the few
newsletter subscribers offered to be a tester of
our robot Marl.

You were one of the only newsletter subscribers
not to take the opportunity....

And so I thought it was only fair to email
and offer you the link again:


http://doublingstocks.com/testers-required.php


If you're not interested, please reply back to this
email so that I can offer your place to another
subscriber.

Best Regards,
Michael Cohen

Ps. If you did respond to this offer, and I'm in error then
I apologize for emailing you again.

Global Marketing Corporation
12 Well Ridge Close
Whitley Bay
Tyne and Wear NE25 9PN
United Kingdom

So the next time u want to be a jerk go find a cop and yell at him and ill laugh when u get arrested. ALSO i don't care if people invest it the #$%^ or not. I was giving info about the whole thing. Im not even investing in these stocks till i see MORE proof about the tips that they are giving. SO I DON"T STAND TO MAKE A DIME OUT OF THIS SO I DON"T CARE IF PEOPLE INVEST. I just thought that people would want the info about Marl and the newsletter that i was unable to find myself.

[Patrick01]

Here's something I found which doesn't give me a good feeling.
"Doubling Stocks was compensated $5,000 to promote IWWI.OB" (http://www.pennystocksblog.net/labels/IWWI.html)


This doesn't really bother me. As long as enough people buy in to the stock it'll move up as stated.

[CarlJ]

This doesn't really bother me. As long as enough people buy in to the stock it'll move up as stated.

All I know is that the stock picks Doublingstocks sends out are supposed to be based on the picks from the Marl software, not paid promotion. I suppose both could coincide and I don't know if the promotion even happened.
However, if they actually make me money with the stock picks I'll be happy. 8)

[WhiteDragon32]

Test version of Marl sugests IOGH
and once again i am not asking anyone to invest in the stocks i am posting.
I AM NOT INVESTING IN THEM ETHER. all i am doing is making a post so that people can see what kind of stuff doublingstocks is suggesting. This way we can better see there influence on the market.

[sara15]

Thanks White Dragon. I'm curious about Marl, having signed up for the newsletter and immediately being told by advertisement how much less useful it was than the robot trial. A little hesitant to download unknown software and pay more, so particularly appreciate any information from your experience with it.
That's the idea here, isn't it? Pool info so we save each other time, energy & money?

[WhiteDragon32]

Thanks White Dragon. I'm curious about Marl, having signed up for the newsletter and immediately being told by advertisement how much less useful it was than the robot trial. A little hesitant to download unknown software and pay more, so particularly appreciate any information from your experience with it.
That's the idea here, isn't it? Pool info so we save each other time, energy & money?

that is how i see this tread as well. i see it as info and not as a stock tip go invest now. but i also don't think test Marl is legit. it is about a 2 MB zip that is suppose to anilyse all this stock info to find a good tip. it is WAY to small to do that. what i think it is, is a program that looks all fancy and does all this smoke and mirror stuff. what i think they are doing is at some point in the day after the market has closed is there setting up an application to tell test Marl what stock is suppose to do well. so i think that all test Marl is, is another everyday newsletter, but in the form of a program that looks like it is doing something.

[sara15]

Hi White Dragon,
2 Mb to screen lots of stocks on various parameters? Sure sounds like you're right. A higher priced newsletter disguised as a program. Well, still interesting to see if one can make something, despite smoke & mirrors.

[CarlJ]

Got another email this Am. I responded but my response came back undeliverable.:? I have been subscribed for almost a month now.
"I never heard back from you about that space I
> reserved
> for you in DoublingStocks.com.
>
> You're one of 7 emails I have in a spreadsheet
> on my laptop.
>
> Please email back to support@doublingstocks.com
> if you would definately not like a subscriber space
> saved
> any longer.
>
> Thank You,
> Michael Cohen
>
> Ps. If you are receiving this email, and are already
> a paid
> member, please delete this email."

The emails have an unsubscribe link at the bottom which is fine except, when you click the link you find the name of the Free and Paid email list are almost identical so you don't know which one to unsubscribe from. Emails to help@doublingstocks.com requesting to be unsubscribed get no response while the one I replied to support@doublingstocks.com this AM was returned undeliverable.


Oh and this reserved spaces thing is garbage and misleading. If I click the link I subscribed from it'll say 3, if I clear by cache and click another it might say 14 spaces etc.
In any event I wonder if anyone has ever been turned away and their payment refunded because there were no more "spaces' on the list?

[CBOE Bull]

I hate to burst anyones bubble but doublingstocks is a scam. It has all of the components of a BS internet sales scheme. First they get everyone excited by telling them about the "worlds forst stock picking robot" which is a load of bull. A "stock picking robot" is just a stock screener which has been around for decades. The first actual screener was developed by a company called Spooz Inc and it's called SWARM. One license for this was sold so far for 1.5 million. Google it.

Back to the doublingstocks scam.. So after introducing this first ever robot, they pump you up by saying a license will cost $28,000.. But hey! You can order a newsletter that will give you some of it's picks! Then once you blow your $50 on the newsletter, several weeks later you are invited to be a tester for MARL! Holy Moly! For only $100?!? So then they get another $100 from you.. Who knows what the next upsell is but this has all the components of a sales scam. And then to make it even funnier, they offer an affilliate program. Another red flag. So basically.. anybody that spent money on this garbage, return it as soon as you can. And if you found doublingstocks by getting there by the link the admin of this forum set up, you just made Lyle Lovett some cash because he's signed up as an affilliate. lol

There's no quickie no brainer way to pick stocks. Try and take short cuts and you 'll only get burned and line someone elses pockets.

[maestro7]

A few things about this:

- I recently subscribed to DoublingStock's newsletter ($47);
- I did receive a response to a ticket I opened with them, asking them some basics about the system, such as how many people requested refunds (they admitted 3 had thus far)
- I refuse to pay another $97 for the software, purely for the fact that I will only spend any profits made on the software
- I sent the mailer (posted previously in this thread) about noticing I did not pay for the trial software to support along with a missive about how I'd work out a deal with them on getting it
- They said that each newsletter contains one stock pick

Further, it's very possible for the trial software to be relatively small (~2MB); take a look at some of the "use your spare CPU time" screen savers for SETI and a whole host of other apps. Some are not very big and only crunch through limited amounts of data.

This is not to say that I totally agree with doublingstocks.com, but rather, I have yet to receive a newsletter (since I just signed up), and am willing to give them a try. I am already familiar with stop-losses and what not, and I only ever invest a certain percentage of my entire portfolio in any given idea anyway.

I think that until someone like myself or someone else actually performs trades over a few months' time can anyone make a definite decision on this. Also, the following questions should be answered by any subscriber (including me):

Based solely on the newsletter:

- How much was your initial investment in a recommended stock?
- How fast did it take for you to recoup your initial $47 subscriber fee?
- What is your average gain/loss and over what time frame?
- Were you able to buy the stock within a reasonable range of the recommended entry point?
- Were you able to sell the stock within a reasonable range of the recommended entry point?
- Did you have to consistently be in a stock during the first few hours of trading in order for the system to work?

All the best.

[maestro7]

A few things about this:

- I recently subscribed to DoublingStock's newsletter ($47);
- I did receive a response to a ticket I opened with them, asking them some basics about the system, such as how many people requested refunds (they admitted 3 had thus far)
- I refuse to pay another $97 for the software, purely for the fact that I will only spend any profits made on the software
- I sent the mailer (posted previously in this thread) about noticing I did not pay for the trial software to support along with a missive about how I'd work out a deal with them on getting it
- They said that each newsletter contains one stock pick

Further, it's very possible for the trial software to be relatively small (~2MB); take a look at some of the "use your spare CPU time" screen savers for SETI and a whole host of other apps. Some are not very big and only crunch through limited amounts of data.

This is not to say that I totally agree with doublingstocks.com, but rather, I have yet to receive a newsletter (since I just signed up), and am willing to give them a try. I am already familiar with stop-losses and what not, and I only ever invest a certain percentage of my entire portfolio in any given idea anyway.

I think that until someone like myself or someone else actually performs trades over a few months' time can anyone make a definite decision on this. Also, the following questions should be answered by any subscriber (including me):

Based solely on the newsletter:

- How much was your initial investment in a recommended stock?
- How fast did it take for you to recoup your initial $47 subscriber fee?
- What is your average gain/loss and over what time frame?
- Were you able to buy the stock within a reasonable range of the recommended entry point?
- Were you able to sell the stock within a reasonable range of the recommended entry point?
- Did you have to consistently be in a stock during the first few hours of trading in order for the system to work?

All the best.

Some other things to keep in mind as well when looking at any services like this:

- While most merchants like using the "dimes for dollars" principle (inflate the price of something for the purposes of making the real price look like a deal), it is true that these folks can charge whatever they wish for their software. If people are willing to buy, they then have a market price;
- I have not read anywhere where these folks claim that you will "always" make money or that returns are "guaranteed if using our system correctly;"
- The "open number of subscribers available" and other such ploys don't necessarily mean that something is illegite -- most companies say things like "while supplies last" or "for a limited time," which are merely different phrases for, "we want to test this on you first before going full tilt;"

...and, finally:

- I've known a number of MBAs who have exceptional careers that can't spell correctly to save their lives. It absolutely drives me crazy, but, then again, they weren't hired for their grammar skills

Frankly, I think doublingstocks.com could have a better web site, but that's not for me to decide. For me, the bottom line is after doing some basic, initial research via Google, the only completely negative thing I've found to date is someone claiming they never receive emails from this group. In actuality, I have, within 24 hours of my sending one to them. Of course, the only thing that proves is that someone has an email address.

[Luc1Grunt]

I hate to burst anyones bubble but doublingstocks is a scam. It has all of the components of a BS internet sales scheme. First they get everyone excited by telling them about the "worlds forst stock picking robot" which is a load of bull. A "stock picking robot" is just a stock screener which has been around for decades. The first actual screener was developed by a company called Spooz Inc and it's called SWARM. One license for this was sold so far for 1.5 million. Google it.

Back to the doublingstocks scam.. So after introducing this first ever robot, they pump you up by saying a license will cost $28,000.. But hey! You can order a newsletter that will give you some of it's picks! Then once you blow your $50 on the newsletter, several weeks later you are invited to be a tester for MARL! Holy Moly! For only $100?!? So then they get another $100 from you.. Who knows what the next upsell is but this has all the components of a sales scam. And then to make it even funnier, they offer an affilliate program. Another red flag. So basically.. anybody that spent money on this garbage, return it as soon as you can. And if you found doublingstocks by getting there by the link the admin of this forum set up, you just made Lyle Lovett some cash because he's signed up as an affilliate. lol

There's no quickie no brainer way to pick stocks. Try and take short cuts and you 'll only get burned and line someone elses pockets.


Could not have said it better myself.

While you all are at it, take a hard look at most of the banner ads. Add fiasco to the link.

I believe I "cautiously" breached the subject a week or two ago......but hye, who am I to cause trouble?

Just trying to play nice.

[maestro7]

I hate to burst anyones bubble but doublingstocks is a scam. It has all of the components of a BS internet sales scheme. First they get everyone excited by telling them about the "worlds forst stock picking robot" which is a load of bull. A "stock picking robot" is just a stock screener which has been around for decades. The first actual screener was developed by a company called Spooz Inc and it's called SWARM. One license for this was sold so far for 1.5 million. Google it. ...

For that matter, anyone with any sense will know that "automatic stock pickers" are formulas of one sort or another. This doesn't necessarily disqualify all of them; rather, each author has what they believe to be the best strategy for finding stocks.


... Back to the doublingstocks scam.. So after introducing this first ever robot, they pump you up by saying a license will cost $28,000.. But hey! You can order a newsletter that will give you some of it's picks! ...

Maybe I'm "smarter than the average bear," but individuals don't usually sell software for this much, though corporations certainly do (it's called vertical selling). Besides -- if they actually got $28k for the software, they're better at getting people's money than I am!


... Then once you blow your $50 on the newsletter, several weeks later you are invited to be a tester for MARL! Holy Moly! For only $100?!? So then they get another $100 from you.. ...

Being fair, the newsletter theoretically only posts on Sundays (assuming US ET), so after spending $47 in the middle of the week for the newsletter, it will be a few days before the first one arrives.

As far as the software is concerned, the "cynical optimist" in me says to pay for it out of profits from the newsletter, if the software really is that big of a deal.


... Who knows what the next upsell is but this has all the components of a sales scam. And then to make it even funnier, they offer an affilliate program. Another red flag. ...

How, exactly, does having an affiliate network constitute being a scam? I realize you're suggesting it's a part of the whole picture, but anyone who is interested in developing a network of business partners knows the benefits of affiliation.


... So basically.. anybody that spent money on this garbage, return it as soon as you can. And if you found doublingstocks by getting there by the link the admin of this forum set up, you just made Lyle Lovett some cash because he's signed up as an affilliate. lol ...

Good for Lyle Lovett. Yet another way someone gets to make money (how this is an issue, I really don't know).

You say it's garbage -- do you have the evidence to back that up? If so, perhaps you could post it, as I haven't seen it yet on this thread, to date. Otherwise, I think the whole point, here, is to give folks an opportunity to post actual plays in the system.


... There's no quickie no brainer way to pick stocks. Try and take short cuts and you 'll only get burned and line someone elses pockets.

I don't think that this system is suggesting that there is a "...quickie no brainer way to pick stocks" -- in fact, I would argue that any system like this is, fundamentally, not dissimilar to going to Yahoo! Finance's advanced stock screener, cross-referencing with Morningstar, cross-referencing with any number of other sources, to find what that particular person believes is a good pick.

For me, it's $47 to figure out if this thing works or not. I certainly won't lose any sleep over that mount of money (maybe other people would). And, maybe you're right, that it is trash. We'll see. I'll be posting my results soon.

All the best.

[Luc1Grunt]

For that matter, anyone with any sense will know that "automatic stock pickers" are formulas of one sort or another. This doesn't necessarily disqualify all of them; rather, each author has what they believe to be the best strategy for finding stocks.



Maybe I'm "smarter than the average bear," but individuals don't usually sell software for this much, though corporations certainly do (it's called vertical selling). Besides -- if they actually got $28k for the software, they're better at getting people's money than I am!



Being fair, the newsletter theoretically only posts on Sundays (assuming US ET), so after spending $47 in the middle of the week for the newsletter, it will be a few days before the first one arrives.

As far as the software is concerned, the "cynical optimist" in me says to pay for it out of profits from the newsletter, if the software really is that big of a deal.



How, exactly, does having an affiliate network constitute being a scam? I realize you're suggesting it's a part of the whole picture, but anyone who is interested in developing a network of business partners knows the benefits of affiliation.



Good for Lyle Lovett. Yet another way someone gets to make money (how this is an issue, I really don't know).

You say it's garbage -- do you have the evidence to back that up? If so, perhaps you could post it, as I haven't seen it yet on this thread, to date. Otherwise, I think the whole point, here, is to give folks an opportunity to post actual plays in the system.



I don't think that this system is suggesting that there is a "...quickie no brainer way to pick stocks" -- in fact, I would argue that any system like this is, fundamentally, not dissimilar to going to Yahoo! Finance's advanced stock screener, cross-referencing with Morningstar, cross-referencing with any number of other sources, to find what that particular person believes is a good pick.

For me, it's $47 to figure out if this thing works or not. I certainly won't lose any sleep over that mount of money (maybe other people would). And, maybe you're right, that it is trash. We'll see. I'll be posting my results soon.

All the best.

Very well put (from a marketing standpoint). ;)

And welcome to the forum....I may mistakenly call you "And, maybe you're right, that it is trash" from time to time, but who am I to judge?

I would like a you to help me with sound justification for sending in the $$$$ for a sure picks, pyramiding, Liberian Lottery letter I recieved. Every bone in my body says it has to be a scam......but I believe you could make me believe my other voice.....You know, the voice that says "this time it is legit, go ahead". Besides, I've got the money, chuckle, chuckle.

LMFAO twice.

[Luc1Grunt]

Besides, why are we debating a garbage site amongst the hundreds of well established garbage sites anyway.


.....Ohyeah, revenue. My bad (learned that from the kids).;)

[maestro7]

Very well put (from a marketing standpoint). ;)

And welcome to the forum....I may mistakenly call you "And, maybe you're right, that it is trash" from time to time, but who am I to judge?

I would like a you to help me with sound justification for sending in the $$$$ for a sure picks, pyramiding, Liberian Lottery letter I recieved. Every bone in my body says it has to be a scam......but I believe you could make me believe my other voice.....You know, the voice that says "this time it is legit, go ahead". Besides, I've got the money, chuckle, chuckle.

LMFAO twice.

My understanding with this thread was that anyone was supposed to present actual evidence that something is a farce. It appears to me, however, that you've already made your mind up, and that's fine. I'm not going to persuade anyone at all; I'm going to present as objective and fact-based view as I can.

For all I know, the system could be YAGSG (Yet Another Great Sales Game). I don't know, and I suppose that's the point. I rarely spend money on "gimics" like this because it's not worth it, to me, to take the time and energy to go smoke them all out.

[Luc1Grunt]

My understanding with this thread was that anyone was supposed to present actual evidence that something is a farce. It appears to me, however, that you've already made your mind up, and that's fine. I'm not going to persuade anyone at all; I'm going to present as objective and fact-based view as I can.

For all I know, the system could be YAGSG (Yet Another Great Sales Game). I don't know, and I suppose that's the point. I rarely spend money on "gimics" like this because it's not worth it, to me, to take the time and energy to go smoke them all out.

Where did you get that "understanding" and why were you not convinced after the first couple of posts.

Still LMFAO....three times.

By the way, it has nothing to do with already making my mind up....that was accomplished after an objective, honest look at the product, how it is advertised, what is advertised, the buzzwords used, the claims made.

Does that make it clear?

[maestro7]

Where did you get that "understanding" and why were you not convinced after the first couple of posts.

Still LMFAO....three times.

By the way, it has nothing to do with already making my mind up....that was accomplished after an objective, honest look at the product, how it is advertised, what is advertised, the buzzwords used, the claims made.

Does that make it clear?

Whom are you trying to persuade?

[Luc1Grunt]

Whom are you trying to persuade?

Just calling horseSh!t.

[maestro7]

Just calling horseSh!t.

Then here are more facts that you could use to your defense:

- I thought I read somewhere that these people have 50,000 newsletter subscribers. If that is true, then 50,000 * $47 = $2,350,000
- If 50,000 people also "bought" the software: 50,000 * $97 = $4,850,000
- If the system works exactly as promised (versus as imagined by the subscriber), then why doesn't everyone subscribe to this newsletter?

Prime fascia evidence against these folks.

[Luc1Grunt]

Then here are more facts that you could use to your defense:

- I thought I read somewhere that these people have 50,000 newsletter subscribers. If that is true, then 50,000 * $47 = $2,350,000
- If 50,000 people also "bought" the software: 50,000 * $97 = $4,850,000
- If the system works exactly as promised (versus as imagined by the subscriber), then why doesn't everyone subscribe to this newsletter?

Prime fascia evidence against these folks.

Yup. Who are you trying to persuade?

[maestro7]

Yup. Who are you trying to persuade?

I've already said I'm not intending to persuade anyone; I am merely laying out the facts.

It's interesting -- this is now the third "salable" system that I've tried. The first one provided me with a book to which I still refer to this day; the second, another book, but not as promised, and had my money returned; and now this one.

That gives you an idea of where I've been with this stuff. Frankly, most sites that look like doublingstocks.com are usually scams: Big, bold letters at top, tie-in phraseology in first section, testimonials in second section, "close the sale" verbiage in third. It's usually between the second and third sections where qualifiers are made to help the reader frame a certain assumption about the product or service (I got that one after my second try).

As I said before, I wrote them back a short letter to their support email when they followed up on my non-response to Marl. I was quite impressed -- if I do say so myself -- with my missive back to them; I made it sound like I had my own business ready to be affiliated. A bunch of ethereal concepts.

[Luc1Grunt]

I still think someone wanting stocks picked for them would be better off running with Chinaman. Why Chinaman? He's a prolific poster with a pretty good track record. Also some other good "pickers" on here too.

So why throw $47 at someone who is selling a product they should themselves be using?

Maybe we should all just "sell" systems.....seems to be the easiest money, ha!

Give me 5 bucks a pick......I'll have all the usual disclaimers if you lose!

Naw, I'd rather trade.

Thanks anyway.

[maestro7]

New email from "them folks!" Anonymized parts not disclosed in this forum enclosed in angle brackets.

So far, nice ploy on the "uninitiated" n00b stock traders...

----

Entitled, "Doublingstocks Help and Advice"

<UserName>,

Thank you for becoming a member of Doublingstocks, today I
want to give you some help on setting up a brokerage account
in which you can trade stocks online or by phone.

....Lets start with which broker...

I personally recommend the following brokers, and have had
personal experience with all of them:

www.zecco.com

www.lowtrades.com

www.etrade.com


It's entirely up to you which you choose, you may want to browse
their websites and search online for information on them
to see which broker best suits your needs.

Points of interest:

* fees
* phone trades
* research products
* local offices
* check-writing capabilities
* ATM access

There are many more brokers than those listed above, they are
simply the ones I can personally recommend.

...Signing up....

Setting up an account is usually as easy as downloading the
application forms, signing them, and folding them nicely into
an envelope with a check to fund your account. You'll receive
confirmation of your ability to start trading in pretty short
order. Voila!


If you need any help feel free to email me at help@doublingstocks.com and either myself or one of our support staff will be happy to help.

Best Regards
Michael Cohen

PS. Please add us to your address book/contact list to ensure
you always get our emails.

Global Marketing Corporation
12 Well Ridge Close
Whitley Bay
Tyne and Wear NE25 9PN
United Kingdom

[maestro7]

I still think someone wanting stocks picked for them would be better off running with Chinaman. Why Chinaman? He's a prolific poster with a pretty good track record. Also some other good "pickers" on here too.

So why throw $47 at someone who is selling a product they should themselves be using?

Maybe we should all just "sell" systems.....seems to be the easiest money, ha!

Give me 5 bucks a pick......I'll have all the usual disclaimers if you lose!

Naw, I'd rather trade.

Thanks anyway.

Show me your track record and I might consider it.

[Luc1Grunt]

Show me your track record and I might consider it.


I would say...no.

After further research into this company, I believe I will subscribe.

[maestro7]

I would say...no.

After further research into this company, I believe I will subscribe.

Are you being serious? If so, why the sudden change in viewpoint?

[Luc1Grunt]

Sounds to good too be true...so I'm in.

[microhedge]

The fact that this thread is still alive is hilarious... there was enough info in the first 3 posts in this thread and another Thierry started about the same site to know this Doubling Stocks is ONE GIANT STEAMING PILE OF HORSE @#%@!!! The name Doubling Stocks alone should tell you this is ONE GIANT STEAMING PILE OF HORSE @#%%@!!!!!! Let alone a stock picking machine named MARL!!!! If you had actually read this thread (and Thierry's thread) from the beginning...any of you, you would know there is nothing here to debate. The only reason I started this thread is because Thierry was posting their link (still is for some reason) and I wanted to put it out there for the newbie traders... as a simple observation of the crap that's out there.

Read people, read... for goodness sake!

Quit debating the obvious!!!!!


Are you being serious? If so, why the sudden change in viewpoint?
And not being able to identify Luc1's pointed sarcasm is just funny and sad8O... funny for Luc1, sad for you.

Luc1, Its like going fishing with one worm and you keep catching the same fish cast after cast after cast... gotta hand it to you... keep casting if you can their are apparently several fish here who keep biting:lol:

[Luc1Grunt]

The banner as is still here...maybe my points are missed. Maybe I am not playing on the same ball field.

Good luck to all........................There is always an easy way to get rich...you just have to stumble upon the right banner ad!

That's right, I said "an easy way to get rich".

YOU are the target market if that is what you are looking for.

[maestro7]

The banner as is still here...maybe my points are missed. Maybe I am not playing on the same ball field.

Good luck to all........................There is always an easy way to get rich...you just have to stumble upon the right banner ad!

That's right, I said "an easy way to get rich".

YOU are the target market if that is what you are looking for.

Actually, you're wrong -- there are only two easy ways to get rich: (1) win the lottery; and/or (2) inherit a windfall. Aside from these two things -- which affect less than 5% of the entire US population at any given time -- there is no easy route to get rich.

And, frankly, I never made a claim that "get rich quick" schemes actually work, because virtually every one of them fail.

[Luc1Grunt]

Actually, you're wrong -- there are only two easy ways to get rich: (1) win the lottery; and/or (2) inherit a windfall. Aside from these two things -- which affect less than 5% of the entire US population at any given time -- there is no easy route to get rich.

And, frankly, I never made a claim that "get rich quick" schemes actually work, because virtually every one of them fail.

Maestro, that shot was only aimed at you if you think it was. I need to tighten my **** group a bit. There seems to be some collateral damage.

Your (2) are absolutely correct when you add the the statement "there is no easy route to get rich". Bingo. My point exactly.

Why I seem to care if people are foolish and get ripped off by those a little smarter than them is beyond me. But it still gets me worked up.

My intent was (in an off-hand way) to convey the message eventually drawn out over the past several posts.

[MoTrader]

Go to pokerbobby dot com. Notice how Carl and Michael of Doubling Stocks have become James and Gary.

[Patrick01]

"Above: James and Gary Programming Bobby"

LOL.

[CarlJ]

poker bobby along with about 15 other sites are registered to Alex Hunter.
http://whois.domaintools.com/pokerbobby.com
http://whois.domaintools.com/doublingstocks.com

Pokerbobby appears to be an affiliate program where he gets you to sign up for gambling sites.

[Patrick01]

Wow, he probably shouldn't have his address on there, someone may hunt him down someday.

[Patrick01]

Look! A nice pyramid scheme by Alex.
http://6figurewealthteam.com/

[MoTrader]

Tom Hunter has another web site at equitypromoter.com, where he gives the same address as listed on the doublingstocks and poker bobby sites.

Here is his bio:

“My name is Tom Hunter. I'm a 23 year old stock trader. I have been trading for 7 years and operate multiple penny stock websites. These websites are extremely popular attracting many thousands of visitors each day. Hundreds of these visitors provide me with their email address, with the desire to receiving my weekly stock recommendations.”

That’s not all, check this out:

http://www.equitypromoter.com/index.html

Raise $1 - $3 Million in Equity Capital…
If you would like to raise the price and liquidity of a penny stock. You've landed at the right place.
My firm Global Marketing Corporation owns multiple websites which are all about penny stocks. And these websites in total receive up to 15,000 unique visitors each day.
In fact I collect the name and email address of up to 350 penny stock investors each day. These investors are signing up to receive penny stock tips.
Unlike other sites, these emails were not collected in 1999. These emails have been collected in the past few months, and each day we receive a fresh supply of investors.
One email to this list of people rockets a stock price. You may be a public company whom has been burnt in the past. There are certainly a lot of promoters in this industry who couldn't lift a stock if they had a forklift truck... Yet they continue to accept investor relation contracts.
Not with me. If you're not happy with the volume I generate, I'll either promote your stock again in coming weeks. Or refund your money.
How's that for fair?
Wanna' sort out an arrangement, contact me here!

[MrMook]

It is way past Sunday in the UK where he says his "offices" are and I still do not have a stock pick. According to google earth 12 Well Ridge Close, Whitley Bay is a brown house and I can not see any town hall or public library unless they are both brown houses. This seems alot like a scam.

[MoTrader]

Equitypromoter.com went offline about an hour after I posted it last night, but you can view the text via Wayback machine:

http://web.archive.org/web/20070714042222/http://www.equitypromoter.com/index.html

It appears that the stock picks are bought and paid for, and subscribers are unwitting dupes.

[CarlJ]

Thx Mo, according to his "portfolio" it looks like he got paid $25,000.00 to pump CCWD.PK. 8O

"Feel free to contact me by this form, calling or by mail. You can always email me directly at tom [at] equitypromoter [dot] com."

[CarlJ]

The SEC says on their "cyberfraud/newsletter" page, "Legitimate online newsletters that have been paid to tout stocks will clearly and specifically tell investors who paid them, the amount, and the type of payment. Look for their disclosure statements in articles about particular companies or in a list or chart on their websites (http://www.sec.gov/investor/pubs/cyberfraud/newsletter.htm)."

[maestro7]

Thanks for the SEC link; very helpful.

Also, I noticed that unless you're "fast enough" to get in on the price of a given recommended stock, it's really not worth it.

For example, DoublingStock's current recommendation, NLIA (which, again, was given as a "teaser" to the non-paying crowd), closed yesterday at $0.22 and appears to basically have opened today at $0.36 (for what will probably be an advertised gain of >60%). Naturally, if you're one of the fortunate ones to "get in" before everyone else does, you'll make those gains.

While it is true that there are stock pickers galore -- clearly a famous one being Jim Cramer with his consequential "Cramer affect" -- this, to me, is not worth it. I don't so much have a problem with anyone promoting a given stock; people do that all the time. My issue is utilitarian: I cannot place (1) a Pre-Market trade on the stock; (2) cannot make a stop-limit buy order; and (3) am not sure that I could invoke a trailing stop on said trade.

So. I think I'm going to ask for my money back and see what happens.

[MrMook]

Did anyone actually become a "Tester" for MARL. If so what is it look like and does it actually recommend stocks? And if you have any pictures post them.

[microhedge]

Please read the thread newbies... AND STAY AWAY from Doubling Stocks and MARL... its a joke, a hoax, a scam, a rip-off, a POS!!!!!!

AND Read the other thread started by Thierry!!!!

READ... READ... READ... READ

Stop asking the same questions over and over when the info could reach out and slap you in the face... IF you don't do your homework in the stockmarket better than this you are going to LOSE EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8O

[CarlJ]

If you try to leave the doublingstocks page now there is a popup offering to pay you $20.00 if you read the whole page and think it's a waste of your time.. 8O..... "$20.00" :idea:

[MyRightEye]

Off topic. I registered here some hours ago. It was not letting me create a new thread. Anyone know why?

[sorc]

Just read this thing and signed up just to say have been using db for longer than u talk about and turned 5k into 400k+ not bad aye.

[specul8r]

They make recomendations to their subscribers after the market closes. Their subscribers execute buy orders that night and it drives up the price of the stock the next day "within 30 minutes of the market opening", as promised. After everybody buys, they sell off within the next few days and the stocks level off.

I have almost reached the conclusion that they are full of sht!

[maestro7]

They make recomendations to their subscribers after the market closes. Their subscribers execute buy orders that night and it drives up the price of the stock the next day "within 30 minutes of the market opening", as promised. After everybody buys, they sell off within the next few days and the stocks level off.

I have almost reached the conclusion that they are full of sht!

The process you have described is exactly what happens. They have noted that there have been few people request refunds for their subscription (this is either true and people don't mind the above process and/or they're lying).

However, for long-term asset accumulation, this methodology is the furthest from where you would want to go. Personally, I am becoming involved with a newsletter service that evaluates stocks for a minimum hold time of 3 years; nothing beats (1) having trusted advisors that actually research stocks and interview CEOs and (2) having those trusted advisors follow a strict policy of not being in recommended companies for so many days before and after the recommendation. Also, having a "scorecard" of sorts that allows for any/all previous recommendations to be compared to, say, the S&P 500 or a total stock index fund is also helpful.

[smartinvestor30]

Did anyone actually become a "Tester" for MARL. If so what is it look like and does it actually recommend stocks? And if you have any pictures post them.

I read the same thing yesterday, sound convincing huh? Imagine you could hold... in the palm of your hand the Machine responsible for Trading at GOLDMAN SACHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!


If you guys are interested I can check out this MARL thing. I like that this thread was started I was going to start one.

[smartinvestor30]

Guys MARL is real look I have proof:

http://www.doublingstocks.com/images/carlslaptops.jpg


See these bunch of computers is proof that these guys were working with software so powerful they had to put laptops together. I'm in I'm buying MARL right now.

[microhedge]

HOPEFULLY you're kidding?!8O

Just checking... :wink:

[smartinvestor30]

I signed up for the newsletter and oh my god I was one of the lucky few selected to test MARL. Not for $28,000 (the regular price) but for FREE + a simple $99 administration fee (this is so they know I'm serious :lol: )

Anyway there were two spots left, so I jumped at it and now I'm a proud owner of a sophisticated piece of software that is normally responsible for trading $40,000,000,000,000,000,000 (quintillion). In case you don't know how much that is (because the sales letter on the website doesn't tell you) It's a lot!!! Imagine having it for $99 to test out. Well now you can have it for free, because here it is:

http://www.gigasize.com/get.php?d=p7cv7vg6nsc



In addition to this I have also provided a link to Jim Cramers "MAD Money" Board so you can keep hitting "Ka-CHING" as you rack up the dough with this software. Then when you are done with it go ahead and hit "house of Pain" and "they know Nothing". Actually hit "they know nothing" a few extra times, I love that one taken from Cramer bashing the FED.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/18724672/

Ok I'm off to request my refund and see if they actually do it. :lol:

[smartinvestor30]

You need an unzip program to open the file for MARL. As you can see it's a shitty looking software with a gay robot who looks like he got his leg put up his a--


Also BE CAREFUL were you install this program. I wouldn't put in on an important machine or any machine with my personal data!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If the link expire someone can upload to: www.gigasize.com and post the link.

[Pigeoninator]

So have people agreed this is a pump & dump scam? One thing I don't get though, if someone could answer me. Their stock pick last week ( NLIA ) went up 89% and had a end of day volume of 1.6 million. How could DB do this? Even if it is a scam in that sense, you've still made a lot of money ( depending how much stock you bought ) due to all the subscribers of DoublingStocks. Something isn't right about their company, if it is a legit organisation then I would highly recommend getting rid of the salesmen ******** talk that's all over their site!!

[Pigeoninator]

btw, thanks smartinvestor for the link to marl. i will install it later and hopfully it doesn't contain trojans lol. I agree with whitedragon who posted earlier, I reckon it's controlled by people in an office somewhere and it's trying to create as much hype and direct people to the same stock. Maybe some of us can do some experiements eh? A few of us run the program on the same day and see what it comes up with!

Also, I know this isn't the appropriate section of the forum but I do have a question:

If you buy into, say NLIA, and it went up due to hype created by DoublingStocks, would you have trouble selling your stock because people aren't buying? Would you end up with some useless stock?

[maestro7]

btw, thanks smartinvestor for the link to marl. i will install it later and hopfully it doesn't contain trojans lol. I agree with whitedragon who posted earlier, I reckon it's controlled by people in an office somewhere and it's trying to create as much hype and direct people to the same stock. Maybe some of us can do some experiements eh? A few of us run the program on the same day and see what it comes up with!

Also, I know this isn't the appropriate section of the forum but I do have a question:

If you buy into, say NLIA, and it went up due to hype created by DoublingStocks, would you have trouble selling your stock because people aren't buying? Would you end up with some useless stock?

It depends on its "liquidity;" that is, if you are talking thousands of shares and there are only a few thousand shares traded on a given day, you may have a problem, because there simply wouldn't be enough buyers for your shares. But, if you have, say, 500 shares and tens of thousands of shares trade daily, you probably won't have a problem.

I've also been tracking NLIA, and it's interesting to note that on the first recommendation, the price "target" was up around $0.68/share. However, since the first "pump" didn't sustain after a few days, another letter comes out saying that not only is anything under $0.50/share a deal, but the "target" really "should" be over $1.00, "especially if dual-listing on the DAX (the German stock exchange)."

Interesting stuff.

[Pigeoninator]

He sounds pretty confident though, although it seems like a scam it also feels like he doesn't want to piss off people and make them lose money.

[maestro7]

He sounds pretty confident though, although it seems like a scam it also feels like he doesn't want to piss off people and make them lose money.

Part of the issue -- and someone else pointed this out on another thread in this forum -- is that the guy(s) who do doublingstocks.com seem to have a track record of soliciting monies from companies to recommend to their lists. Also, this person (people) seems to also promise said companies a certain amount of cash infusion into their stock.

Notice that I'm not disagreeing with you, and that none of the above is illegal; legalities come into play if one were to actually spam (unwanted) email to people, and even then it's not so much the "pump & dump" that's illegal, but rather, the sending of spam could be construed as such.

Because doublingstocks.com is having people pay for their service (or explicitly sign up to "try it out"), they are not spamming subscribers. Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with getting paid to recommend a stock; ethically speaking, however, most legitimate firms that get paid to recommend stock will have an explicit disclaimer specifically stating such. Also, we have no clue as to whether or not the doublingstocks.com people take a position in a recommended company just before they recommend it to subscribers. Again, I don't think there's anything illegal about that, per se, but it is unethical, in my opinion.

Bottom line: If you're looking for long-term appreciation of assets, look elsewhere.

[Pigeoninator]

So basically, if it is DBs fault that the stock bounces, there's going to be lucky people and unlucky people. The lucky ones will ride it to the top and know when to sell while other people will be left to hang dry because they left it to late and no one wants to buy the stock.

[maestro7]

So basically, if it is DBs fault that the stock bounces, there's going to be lucky people and unlucky people. The lucky ones will ride it to the top and know when to sell while other people will be left to hang dry because they left it to late and no one wants to buy the stock.

That's certainly the most plausible, out of many plausible, scenarios.

I think it was you who brought up a good point: there conceivably could be other action going on with the stock outside the control of doublingstocks. In which case, it is possible that their price target scenario might have a chance of playing out.

But really, the bottom line to all of this is that if you're willing to take the risks of being a "day trader," doublingstocks is certainly an option. However, if you want to build up equity in a long-term portfolio, then doublingstocks is about as far away from being an option to reach that goal as you could get.

[Pigeoninator]

It's not like they're trying to fool people in the sense that the stock IS going to reach a certain point. Any sensible person will realize that this company has made a target but know that stocks are pretty unpredictable. Aslong as it goes up, even by a cent or two, you've made profit from a little bit of information. Money money money!

[smartinvestor30]

It's not like they're trying to fool people in the sense that the stock IS going to reach a certain point. Any sensible person will realize that this company has made a target but know that stocks are pretty unpredictable. Aslong as it goes up, even by a cent or two, you've made profit from a little bit of information. Money money money!

Again it's hard to make money when your buy price is at the market open of the next day after it's recommended. They send out an email, let's say Sunday night. You place a "buy" order. Your order does not go in till Monday morning, and by that time it has gone up 30% overnight from after hours trading.


So the only people making good money from these picks are the ones sending the newsletter. They can buy it before they recommend it and take all the profit.

[smartinvestor30]

btw, thanks smartinvestor for the link to marl. i will install it later and hopefully it doesn't contain trojans lol. I agree with whitedragon who posted earlier, I reckon it's controlled by people in an office somewhere and it's trying to create as much hype and direct people to the same stock. Maybe some of us can do some experiments eh? A few of us run the program on the same day and see what it comes up with!

Also, I know this isn't the appropriate section of the forum but I do have a question:

If you buy into, say NLIA, and it went up due to hype created by DoublingStocks, would you have trouble selling your stock because people aren't buying? Would you end up with some useless stock?

Yes after running it a few times I can see that it just retrieves data from some server. I don't think there is any analysis going on from the software at all. It simply displays whatever Ticker Symbol is at the server.

Also if the link for download is dead someone can upload to rapidshare and post it.

[microhedge]

Congratulations... you're coming to the same conclusions that were reached for you long ago on this and other threads!

BTW, fire is hot, ice is cold and water is wet... hope that helps:wink:

[maestro7]

Congratulations... you're coming to the same conclusions that were reached for you long ago on this and other threads!

BTW, fire is hot, ice is cold and water is wet... hope that helps:wink:

If the world made sense, there'd be no need for leaders.

The world is ruled by way of the aggressive use of force.

Man who stands on toilet is high on pot.

[Pigeoninator]

Again it's hard to make money when your buy price is at the market open of the next day after it's recommended. They send out an email, let's say Sunday night. You place a "buy" order. Your order does not go in till Monday morning, and by that time it has gone up 30% overnight from after hours trading.


So the only people making good money from these picks are the ones sending the newsletter. They can buy it before they recommend it and take all the profit.

I've watched the stock they pick asoon as the market opens, it doesn't just shoot up out of nowhere it gradually goes up during the 45 minutes of the market opening. You can easily get in there if you place a buy order and make some decent cash. Perfect for a day trader.

[Luc1Grunt]

I've watched the stock they pick asoon as the market opens, it doesn't just shoot up out of nowhere it gradually goes up during the 45 minutes of the market opening. You can easily get in there if you place a buy order and make some decent cash. Perfect for a day trader.

Start a thread with the title of "doubling stocks pick of the day" and show the stock it picked prior to the open.

That way we can all watch the action.

[Pigeoninator]

Start a thread with the title of "doubling stocks pick of the day" and show the stock it picked prior to the open.

That way we can all watch the action.

Why not just sign up for their 8 week free trial period? All you do is put in an email address and you will get a stock pick once a week ( normally monday night UK time ) for 8 weeks.

[microhedge]

I hear the bleating of sheep... yes, most definitely... its growing louder... look in the distance, a green pasture... no wait!

A Cliff!

Come back, turn around... doh8O

Poor sheep... where was the Shepherd?

[Luc1Grunt]

Why not just sign up for their 8 week free trial period? All you do is put in an email address and you will get a stock pick once a week ( normally monday night UK time ) for 8 weeks.

I'm sorry, you must have me confused with someone else.

You are already signed up for the FREE newsletter.

So what is the problem with sharing the love with those on this forum as it is FREE.

I'll watch the pick. But I don't trade pennies.

Many on here do and that would help them out since this is a "learning" community. :D

[Pigeoninator]

No it's just you gave the impression you didn't want to sign up or you haven't signed up, so I said it's free for 8 weeks so you might aswell.

[Luc1Grunt]

No it's just you gave the impression you didn't want to sign up or you haven't signed up, so I said it's free for 8 weeks so you might aswell.


Fair enough.

As I said, I don't trade pennies....however; I have occassionally slipped in and out as the stock is pumped through a forum(s) and have been "lucky" enough to get out with profit.

I find penny stock "trading" fascinating you could say. :lol:

[CarlJ]

If it's really "FREE" for 8 weeks then "WHY" does it cost $47.00 to get the "FREE" 8 weeks?:?

[Pigeoninator]

If it's really "FREE" for 8 weeks then "WHY" does it cost $47.00 to get the "FREE" 8 weeks?:?

Because the free trial period runs out. When I first went onto the site I got a pop up saying put my email address in it and get free stock picks for a certain period of time. After a while I thought I'd sign up, but as my 8 weeks hasn't run out I still get 2 emails. One for trial which hasn't run out and one for the paid email list that I'm on. Anyway I think it's all a joke I cannot for the life of me take that program they sell seriously. I have sent them a few emails asking questions and they normally get back to me.

[Luc1Grunt]

Just read this thing and signed up just to say have been using db for longer than u talk about and turned 5k into 400k+ not bad aye.

Just when this guy ALMOST had me convinced to buy.

Dammit to truthful posts!

[microhedge]

Just when this guy ALMOST had me convinced to buy.

Dammit to truthful posts!

Good Lord did that "sorc" come from here somewhere?! Too Funny!!!! The length they won't go to suck $47 bucks from people!

I signed up just to prove a point and help some people out here, but apparently that doesn't prove to be too helpful as most ignored the hilariously obvious message in the thread and continue to debate the plausibility of this and whether its real or not... hmmmm, oh well.

Run sheep run8O

[Luc1Grunt]

Good Lord did that "sorc" come from here somewhere?! Too Funny!!!! The length they won't go to suck $47 bucks from people!

I signed up just to prove a point and help some people out here, but apparently that doesn't prove to be too helpful as most ignored the hilariously obvious message in the thread and continue to debate the plausibility of this and whether its real or not... hmmmm, oh well.

Run sheep run8O


You know Hedge, you are really starting to sound like me. He, he.

The link is still posted at the bottom left of the homepage.......

[konlao]

Hello all,

Thay have move to usa now

Old address...below

Global Marketing Corporation
12 Well Ridge Close
Whitley Bay
Tyne and Wear NE25 9PN
United Kingdom

New address.. and quote from their site

Oh and by the way Michael's company "Global Marketing Corporation Ltd" is located at 93 S. Jackson Street #56595, Seattle, WASHINGTON 98104-2818, UNITED STATES. That's right across from City Hall and exactly opposite the Public Library. If you have any questions, you can open a support ticket at his help desk (http://support.doublingstocks.com) or call him on (44)7835400828.


IS THAT A USA PHONE NUMBER??

[microhedge]

Well Luc1, I must say, this thread is providing a continual source of entertainment... its even spawned others.... Hmmmhmm good stuff8O

[Pigeoninator]

marl is saying DBRM. But marl is gay. lol. watch DBRM

[MrMook]

My MARL is now saying BBCZ and I just got an email form Michael saying that he just got a Video Testimonial from a guy called Ethan. But when you double click on the video it says it was put on youtube April 16th. Weird he says he just "uploaded" it.

[Luc1Grunt]

A really good read for those thinking about paying for a product.

http://www.traderslaboratory.com/forums/f30/something-i-want-to-say-to-2516.html

[CarlJ]

Marl is downloading information from the "doublingpenystocks" server, it says so in the manual that comes with it. Draw your own conclusions.
Right now I'm still down on the two doublingpennystocks I got in on NLIA to the tune of -30.00 and sstp is back up to the price I bought at from it's dip. Soon as I can break even I'm done. So far I've had better luck making my own picks and I barely have a clue.
NLIA does look promising though. :oops:

[Luc1Grunt]

Marl is downloading information from the "doublingpenystocks" server, it says so in the manual that comes with it. Draw your own conclusions.
Right now I'm still down on the two doublingpennystocks I got in on NLIA to the tune of -30.00 and sstp is back up to the price I bought at from it's dip. Soon as I can break even I'm done. So far I've had better luck making my own picks and I barely have a clue.
NLIA does look promising though. :oops:

Do they give you a sell target or "trigger" or are you on your own?

No offense to anyone.....but the exit tends to be the toughest part of any trade. I'm sure that will be debated, but fear and greed play the exit more so than the entry.

[Pigeoninator]

*sigh* Anyone staying in the stock longer than 45 minutes of opening risks losing all. I don't know why you'd want to stay in there longer anyway. You have to get a feel for the stock and asoon as you think it's starting to slow down just sell. Don't get greedy, just go with the flow.

[Luc1Grunt]

So the assumption would be:

"The speculator is uneducated in picking stocks so he sends us his money, but at the same time he is educated beyond many traders in exiting the trade."

That's where this is ALL SO COMICAL!!!!!!!!

Suckers born every minute!

No offense to any suckers out there. :mrgreen:

[Pigeoninator]

So the assumption would be:

"The speculator is uneducated in picking stocks so he sends us his money, but at the same time he is educated beyond many traders in exiting the trade."

That's where this is ALL SO COMICAL!!!!!!!!

Suckers born every minute!

No offense to any suckers out there. :mrgreen:

It's not actually hard to just simply sell your stock, people always wait till they can get the highest gain because of greed. Anything above what you bought it for is profit and should be thought of as such and just be happy with it.

[CarlJ]

Do they give you a sell target or "trigger" or are you on your own?

No offense to anyone.....but the exit tends to be the toughest part of any trade. I'm sure that will be debated, but fear and greed play the exit more so than the entry.

He only has given a target for one stock I've received and that target wasn't reached so he re-promoted it.
Though he indicates he will tell you when to sell, he doesn't and you "learn or burn". I got in because I didn't know how to trade and bought the sales pitch that I don't need to know anything, just follow his advice.
Then I came here and found out the truth.


No offense to any suckers out there.

:( None taken. I have a tendency to learn the hard way.:?

[microhedge]

It's not actually hard to just simply sell your stock...

Hmmmmmm... and how long have you played P&Ds in the penny world?8O

[dadooh27]

Greed is the one thing that will surely pick you pocket if you are not careful. I find that the best thing to do is to establish an entry level you are comfortable with and determine where you want to get out before you buy. You can adjust your exit a little if you feel the energy but stick pretty close to your discipline. I don't know that the amount of time is the key I think it's more a matter of percentage.

[Pigeoninator]

Ok guys, you know more about the market than me. Analyze this:


IMPORTANT WARNING: For those of you serious about making money in
penny stocks I consider it an absolute must that you are checking
your emails on Tuesday.

For this weeks pick I've got a bit of a story to tell:

About 7 months ago I found a penny stock that really caught my
interest and as I dug deeper and deeper the smile only widened
on my face.

You' see this company has what it takes to really make it. Clear
as day. Anyone who knew anything about the stock market could see that.

Days later I got a call from an analyst friend of mine, I never
usually listen to these "hot tips" but this guy had put me onto
some winners in the past so I heard him out.

It amused us both to find that we had both got very excited
over this same stock.

If you're sitting there thinking I'm about to brag about some
huge gain. I'm not. As I didn't recommend it to my members.

And for good reason. The company was great, but one look at the
charts and I could see it was set for a fall, and fall it did.
It has since fallen by around 50%, just a little over my prediction.

For those of you wanting something to invest in right now, this
is one of the best bits of news you're going to see for a long
time. Because as this stock has fallen(removing alot of it's risk)
it has became an even more attractive buy.

But that's not all...

After I identified this 10 bagger in the making, I inevitably
added it to Marl's database, added it's ticker to my whiteboard
and had to be talked out of tattooing it to my forehead to
ensure I didn't forget.

And last Friday came the "BEEP" I had waited 7 months to
hear. That's right, Marl has just identified that this stock
has fallen as far as its going to... and what's more... it is
set for a strong run!

The moral of the story: On Tuesday you're about to be emailed
what I believe will be one of our biggest winners in 2007.

Best Regards,
Michael

I will post what he sends me on Monday/Tuesday night. This is your chance to 100% prove this is a scam to all who search doublingstocks.com.

[CarlJ]

This is your chance to 100% prove this is a scam to all who search doublingstocks.com.

Have you read this entire thread?

[Luc1Grunt]

Ok guys, you know more about the market than me. Analyze this:



I will post what he sends me on Monday/Tuesday night. This is your chance to 100% prove this is a scam to all who search doublingstocks.com.


The performance good or bad of this pick will prove nothing. It is the methodoligy and marketing that are in question.

When you get the pick, ask yourself why (the hype is likely the only basis). Then ask when to sell? Is that based on tech? How can you possibly sell on a "feeling".

Maybe I'm getting too deep.

[microhedge]

Have you read this entire thread?

Apparently, no8O

[Luc1Grunt]

"After I identified this 10 bagger in the making, I inevitably
added it to Marl's database, added it's ticker to my whiteboard
and had to be talked out of tattooing it to my forehead to
ensure I didn't forget.

And last Friday came the "BEEP" I had waited 7 months to
hear. That's right, Marl has just identified that this stock
has fallen as far as its going to... and what's more... it is
set for a strong run!

The moral of the story: On Tuesday you're about to be emailed
what I believe will be one of our biggest winners in 2007."

I've got to remember this word-smithing if me and Hedge ever start a newsletter. This is too damn funny. He waited 7 months for the "beep". I'm still laughing.

I actually blew scotch out of my nose when I read that!!

Wonder why he is waiting until Tuesday?

ROFLMFAO times 2!

:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

[Pigeoninator]

Have you read this entire thread?

I've read the thread, but unforntunatly no one has put any money into their stocks and tried to sell when it bounced, so no one has proven anything tbh. All hearsay. This is the chance to completely disprove any ******** they say by losing all your money that you put on and not making a dime. Even if it's just a few dollars.

[Luc1Grunt]

Pigeon, please post it when received.

Then look at the yahoo boards for hype.

Then take a look and determine volume averages for different time periods.

It may be a great opportunity to get in on the "meat" of the trade.

That's the only way I touch pennies....for what it is worth.

[CarlJ]

"

Wonder why he is waiting until Tuesday?

ROFLMFAO times 2!

:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

Could it be,:?: he's buying MONDAY!!:idea:

[microhedge]

...so no one has proven anything tbh. All hearsay. This is the chance to completely disprove any ******** they say by losing all your money

Ahhhhh words to live by... wouldn't you agree Luc1? I've established my entire portfolio on that theory alone8O

How about that newsletter then? Apparently there are some very loyal sheep out there... I can hear the bleating even now.... Luhuhuhc Onhnhnhne... Hehehehedgehehe... leaheheheddd uhuhuhssss

I don't know about you, but I see dollar signs $!$!$!$!$!$!

[Luc1Grunt]

he, he.

[Pigeoninator]

OMG HERE IT IS! MONEY MONEY MONEY! lol


Company: TARA GOLD RESOURCES
Ticker: TRGD.PK (Pink Sheets)
Target Price: $1.92 (Conservatively)
Yahoo Finance: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=TRGD.PK
Company Website: http://www.taragoldresources.com

As promised what I'm about to share with you is what I consider
to be one of the strongest penny stocks I've seen in a long time.
Selling at an almost unbelievably low price.

Marl has picked and we have confirmed that TRGD has fallen as
far as it's going to and is set for a strong run in the
stock price.

Take a look at this chart and see for yourself why now is such
a good entry point:

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/advchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=trgd&time=&freq=

To any experienced chartist it's clear TRGD is set to bounce
giving good short term upside to anyone who invests now.

But that's only half the story because as I mentioned in my last
email the fundamentals are what makes TRGD such an attractive
purchase at today's levels.

Let me try to explain why I think TRGD's prospects are so exciting:

The company (Tara Gold Resources) basically buys and develops
quality mining projects and currently has access to or owns 8
projects and 3 more through a subsidiary.

But here comes the 800lb gorilla....

Pay attention because this is what really excites me about
Tara Gold... It's the fact that TRGD have a very entrepreneurial
set-up with the potential to generate huge amounts of profit
with the use of little capital (Making them a very profitable business).

By combining their strong links in Mexico and very experienced
management. They are in the very strong (and hard to replicate)
position of being able to recognize the high quality mining
opportunities currently in Mexico.

But here's the difference...

With strong links in Mexico and with the Mexican Government
Tara Gold can get access to these opportunities early either
acquiring them for a bargain amount or working out a joint venture. Ultimately
this means they can start mining the project and
generate revenue from it without taking a risk and investing capital.

...A perfect business set-up if ever their was one.

So what does this mean?

For you, the shareholder, it means TRGD has a very high chance
of an extraordinary growth which will take the share price
many many times above 0.50 where it currently trades.

This means Tara Gold is almost sitting on a money tree, but
instead of picking money from a tree, they're going to mine
it out of land they don't even have to buy first.

This operation is already in motion and have been proven to
be a sure fire money maker by raising TRGD's revenues.

I hope I've explained that well. If you still can't see the
massive potential please read the last few paragraphs again,
because I honestly believe TRGD (Tara Gold Resources) is going
to be one of our biggest winners in 2007.

Not 60 Minutes ago I was speaking with the company CEO who
was able to give me some fantastic news:

As an example of how this business model can work, another mining
company by the name of PALMAREJO SILVER AND GOLD CORPO (PJO.V)
actually owned a mining property next door to San Miguel and
La Currita (mines owned by Tara Gold) which they sold for a
total of $1.1 Billion.

...A mine containing 172 Million ounces of silver.

And its just been found that TRGD's mine next door (of which
they own 30%)by Geologists report holds 200-300 Million ounces
(at a higher grade) if they can sell this for just $2 an ounce
(Palmarejo sold theirs for $4.50)that could bring roughly $100
Million into this little company. I can only imagine what a
development like that would do to TRGD's stock price.

And Palmarejo Silver And Gold is currently trading at $9.33!
Now compare that to TRGD's minuscule market cap trading at
only 0.50 and maybe you can start to understand why I'm so
excited about this one.

And lets not forget that geologists rated Palmarejo's silver
30% lower grade than that of Tara Gold's. And as I mentioned
above all these mining properties have been claimed... so this
great find is going to be exclusive to Tara Gold!

...And that's just one of their projects!

This is a perfect example of one of my favorite types of
penny stock plays:

An exciting business concept full of potential BUT with the
important difference that it is already working and bringing
money into the business. This eliminates most of the risk because
all the company has to do is replicate this success.

...You'd think that's enough but I've got one last bonus for you

Because of the very positive investor sentiment in the penny
stock community regarding TRGD I believe if you pick up some
stock at this low. In addition to getting into a fantastic
growth stock at this ridiculous low, all the company has to do
is report more good news on a single acquisition or project
and I believe we'll see a huge boost in the stock price as the
less informed investors wake up to the opportunity.

This will mean a good reward for the shareholders prudent enough
to get in early, which is why I would be looking to buy up
some TRGD as soon as the market opens tomorrow morning.

Best Regards,
Michael Cohen



Review the company and see if it has what he says it has.

[microhedge]

From Software Development to Gas and Oil to mining in Mexico... sounds like a natural progression to me8O


18-Oct-2007

Quarterly Report

ITEM 2. MANAGEMENT'S DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS OF FINANCIAL CONDITION AND PLAN OF OPERATION
In March 2002 Tara Gold's discontinued its software development business and was inactive until early 2004 when it began acquiring and developing oil and gas properties. In 2005 Tara Gold sold its oil and gas properties after it determined that these properties were not economical.

In May 2005 Tara Gold began acquiring mining properties. As of June 30, 2007 Tara Gold had an interest in eleven mining properties in Mexico, including three properties owned by Tara Minerals, a subsidiary of Tara Gold.

During the six months ended June 30, 2006 and 2005 Tara Gold did not have any revenues.

During the six months ended June 30, 2005 Tara Gold was relatively inactive, having discontinued its oil and gas operations in early 2005. Consequently, general and administrative expenses for this period were minimal.

During the six months ended June 30, 2006 Tara Gold was actively involved in investigating the feasibility of various mining properties, negotiating the terms for acquiring properties, and completing the acquisition of properties.
As a result, general and administrative expenses during the six months ended June 30, 2006 were significantly higher than those during the six months ended June 30, 2005.

During the six months ended June 30, 2006 Tara Gold recorded a gain of $521,375 due to the extinguishments of debt.

During the six months ended June 30, 2006 Tara Gold's operations used $(833,262) in cash. During this same period Tara Gold invested $219,683 in mining properties and equipment; made loan repayments of $732,657, and made a deposit of $36,526 toward the payment of a mining property. Tara Gold satisfied its cash requirements for the period primarily through:

†

loans from related parties

†

sale of its common stock

†

payments from joint venture partners, and

†

cash on hand at January 1, 2006

In May 2005 Tara Gold acquired one of its mining properties, the San Miguel prospect, from Minerva Navajoa, S.A. This prospect was purchased for $700,000, which amount had been paid as of June 30, 2006.

In August 2005 Tara Gold signed an agreement with Paramount Gold Mining Corp. providing Paramount the option to acquire a 35% interest in the San Miguel prospect by:

paying $400,000 to Tara Gold;

paying its proportionate share of all remaining payments to Minera Navojoa, S.A.;

issuing 300,000 shares of its common stock to Tara Gold;

As of June 30, 2006 Paramount had made all required payments, in cash or stock, to earn its 35% interest in the San Miguel prospect and Tara Gold recorded a gain of $1,065,000 on the sale of this interest.

As of June 30, 2006 or 2007 Tara Gold did not have any off balance sheet arrangements.

Tara Gold anticipates that its capital requirements for the twelve months ending June 30, 2008 will be:

Payments for mining properties

$ 300,000

Mining exploration and development

$1,000,000

General and administrative expenses

$ 700,000

Total

$2,000,000

The capital requirements shown above do not include any capital required by Tara Minerals, Tara Gold's subsidiary.

Tara Gold does not anticipate that it will need to hire any additional employees prior to December 31, 2007.

Tara Gold does not have any commitments or arrangements from any person to provide Tara Gold with any additional capital. If additional financing is not available when needed, Tara Gold may continue to operate in its present mode or it may need to cease operations.

[samspade7]

The NEW PICK by ..........AHEM MARL...TARA GOLD seems to be a classic "Pump and Dump" stock to me. I am sure "MIKE" has his finger on the mouse now..... ready to "DUMP" a S*** Load of the stock as soon as the SUCKERS....I mean investors rush in to buy it LOL !

[Pigeoninator]

it's going up nicely with some very sweet volume aswell! pure juice. An easy 200 bucks :D

[Exousia]

Wow... up 14% already.

[Pigeoninator]

it was 20% when i sold. very nice for a days work

[tryk43]

I prepared to say that this newsletter is not extremely legitimate. It is unlikely that there is some miracle robot.

I think it is more of a Wizard of Oz type of situation with a couple people at the controls behind the curtain.

I've monitored the last couple of picks.

Each of them (NLIA, TRGD) initially bounced about ten points and then leveled off. Most subscribers probably didn't make any money on them because the market opened so high.

Each of the stocks he chooses are manipulated by his newsletter initially because of inital frenzy created by his recommendation. They go up between 9:30-10:00 and then either level off or drop. Then steady decline and back to their original price.

I think Michael makes money from two sources:

1. People who purchase his newsletter;

2. Buying and selling the stocks he recommends the day before he makes the recommendation.

This is my take on doublingstocks.com.

[Pigeoninator]

All I can say is: I wish I was Michael.

[Luc1Grunt]

it was 20% when i sold. very nice for a days work

You made 20% today. That is fantastic

What price did you get in...what time?
What price did you exit...what time?

The gap shut the %gain down to a $.05 range

How was a 20% gain possible when the release was after the close yesterday? You could not get in for less than .565 and it topped at .615 when you posted.

How many shares?

Show me the money, please.

Just trying to be helpful here. :p

[tryk43]

READ THIS CAREFULLY. IT MIGHT HELP YOU DECIDE WHETHER TO CONTINUE BUYING THE STOCKS HE LISTS IN HIS NEWSLETTER Mainly, read the bolded areas.

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This was taken straight from their website:

Here is the link: http://doublingstocks.com/terms.php

[Exousia]

Wow... that guy got $40k for claiming he had some robot and sending out a newsletter? If only life were that easy for all of us...

[microhedge]

You made 20% today. That is fantastic

What price did you get in...what time?
What price did you exit...what time?

The gap shut the %gain down to a $.05 range

How was a 20% gain possible when the release was after the close yesterday? You could not get in for less than .565 and it topped at .615 when you posted.

How many shares?

Show me the money, please.

Just trying to be helpful here. :p

Beat me to that one Luc1, watched this pitiful POS all day8O... the stock that is

[microhedge]

...doublingstocks.com is planned to be compensated a total of forty thousand dollars for thirty day profile coverage of trgd from a non controlling third party.

Wow was that only after MARL discovered TRGD, i bet it was! This Michael Cohen is a genius, i can't wait for his next pick! Please Michael, don't take too long, i need 20% gains on a 12% move... hey wait a minute, that's impossible... oh nevermind, who cares, give me your next pick!

Baaahh bahhhhh baahhhh bahhhahhhh8O

[Luc1Grunt]

it's going up nicely with some very sweet volume aswell! pure juice. An easy 200 bucks :D


it was 20% when i sold. very nice for a days work


All I can say is: I wish I was Michael.


I've opened an entire thread to figure this one out.

Stock opens at .58 (up .08 which you cannot get in on).
drops to .565 (low of day)
tops at .61
then hovers around .57 through the close.

today's range on this stock is .565 to .61

that is 4 and 1/2 cents.

I see no 20% or even a meager profit minus comish/exp.

I love these threads.

[microhedge]

Stock opens at .58 (up .08 which you cannot get in on).
drops to .565 (low of day)
tops at .61
then hovers around .57 through the close.

today's range on this stock is .565 to .61

that is 4 and 1/2 cents.

I see no 20% or even a meager profit minus comish/exp.

I love these threads.

Boggles the mind doesn't it?!

You and I apparently lack the knowledge to bloat increases in this manner! Apparently it has something to do with MARL the stock picking robot... yah, I bet that's it8O A near impossible 12% gain is really a 20% gain, we're just blinded by our own inexperience I guess.

[tryk43]

Each of his picks are released on the same date as a "Marketwire" or "Newswire" release event. NOT A COINCIDENCE!

This is obviously done to maximize the next morning's buy orders before the price plateaus and begins dipping. But by then, Michael and his associates have already sold the shares he bought the day before. What's ironic about this is he is probably selling at the very moment his subscribers are buying.

This is some seriously bogus stuff that doublingstocks.com is doing. In my opinion a newsletter such as this should not accept any funding from the companies it touts. It makes objectivity impossible.

My advice is that anyone using this service should remain highly cautious.

But then again most people in this forum are already on to these shenanigans.

[Luc1Grunt]

Pidge...you are logged on right now. Help a feller out here.

[Luc1Grunt]

doublingstocks helps fund this site.

[Luc1Grunt]

the ad at the top of this page says earn 347 a week (give or take) on $1000 base capital. Must actually be a system to claim income. 8O

[CarlJ]

10 Bagger hmmmm, sounds like someone I dated once. 8O

[nithy]

Good job Microhedge,

I need some more suggestions from your side.I eagerly waited for MARL, But it ended up with little disappointment.I am new member to this DS. Watching your posts on doubling stocks.Thanks :wink:

[Cameron]

I'm very new to trading, just set up an account and am doing research as I get ready to make some buys. That said, let me get this straight -

- This guy (at doublingstocks) goes back and looks at some 200-300% gains in the last few years and posts on his site that he predicted them using this magic program.

- People start to think he knows what he is talking about and he builds a following via his newsletter and other forums (such as this).

- Hundreds of people are waiting, on the edges of their seats, for his next pick.

- The day before his pick is released, he buys 5000 shares of ABC stock at 2 cents a share.

- After the market closes he sends out his newsletter, telling everyone that his magic computer is predicting a huge rise in stock ABC.

- The next morning, hundreds of traders buy the stock, driving up the price due to the demand.

- He sells at around 500%. His followers buy in, some get lucky, most probably don't.

- Throughout the morning, the stock price settles back into its true value.

Seems like a good system - for him. He gets everyone worked into a frenzy over some two bit stock, often delaying picks and using urgent emails to increase the newsletter reader's anticipation and excitement, then cashes in the next morning.

Then again, I'm new to this - so maybe I am missing something...

[tryk43]

Cameron, you are 100% correct. That's exactly what is happening with this guy Michael and doublingstocks.com.

Its a bunch of BS.

[tryk43]

READ THIS CAREFULLY. IT MIGHT HELP YOU DECIDE WHETHER TO CONTINUE BUYING THE STOCKS HE LISTS IN HIS NEWSLETTER Mainly, read the bolded areas.

Terms of Agreement

This disclaimer is to be read in its entirety, and fully understood before using our site, or joining our E-mailing list. Doublingstocks.com is an independent electronic publication committed to providing our readers with factual information on selected publicly traded companies. All companies are chosen on the basis of certain financial analysis and other pertinent criteria with a view toward maximizing the upside potential for investors while minimizing the downside risk, whenever possible. This is not an offer to buy or sell securities. Information or opinions are presented solely for informative purposes, and are not intended nor should they be construed as investment advice. Neither doublingstocks.com nor any of its employees, affiliates, subsidiaries, or family members are registered investment advisors or registered stock brokers and shall not be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental, special or consequential damages arising out of or resulting from the use or inability to use this site, including but not limited to damages for the loss of capital, funds, profits, use, data, or any and all other possible damages, even if such party has been advised of the possibility of such damages resulting from the use of this site and all information contained on this site. The information provided by doublingstocks.com is not intended for distribution to, or use by, any person or entity in any jurisdiction or country where such distribution or use would be contrary to law or regulation or which would subject us to any registration requirement within such jurisdiction or country. While we believe all sources of information to be factual and reliable, in no way do we represent or guarantee the accuracy thereof, nor the statements made herein. As detailed below, this publication accepts compensation from third party consultants and/or companies which it features on doublingstocks.com. To the degrees listed herein, this Newsletter should not be regarded as an independent publication. All statements and expressions are the sole opinions of the editors and are subject to change without notice. A profile, description, or other mention of a company in the Newsletter is neither an offer nor solicitation to buy or sell any securities mentioned. doublingstocks.com is planned to be compensated a total of forty thousand dollars for thirty day profile coverage of trgd from a non controlling third party. Nothing on this website is a solicitation to buy or sell any securities. The information presented is for informational purposes only. All statements and expressions are the sole opinions of the editors and are subject to change without notice. A profile, description, or other mention of a company on Doublingstocks.com is neither an offer nor solicitation to buy or sell any securities mentioned. While we believe all sources of information to be factual and reliable, in no way do we represent or guarantee the accuracy thereof, nor the statements made herein. The information contained herein contains forward-looking information within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1993 and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 including statements regarding expected continual growth of the company and the value of its securities. In accordance with the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 it is hereby noted that statements contained herein that look forward in time which include everything other than historical information, involve risk and uncertainties that may affect the company's actual results of operation. Factors that could cause actual results to differ include the size and growth of the market for the company's products, the company's ability to fund its capital requirements in the near term and in the long term, pricing pressures, unforeseen and/or unexpected circumstances in happenings, pricing pressures, etc. Investing in securities is speculative and carries risk. Past performance does not guarantee future results. Companies mentioned herein carry a high degree of investment risk; readers should carefully review the companies thoroughly with their registered investment advisor or registered stockbroker. Readers should ALWAYS do their own due diligence, and this publication is not intended, nor should it be construed as any form of research, or due diligence. WE ARE NOT LIABLE FOR ANY DECISIONS MADE BY OUR READERS. We encourage our readers to invest carefully and read the investor information available at the web sites of the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) at www.sec.gov and the National Association of Securities Dealers (NASD) at www.nasd.com. The NASD has published information on how to invest carefully at its website. Readers can review all public filings by companies at the SEC's EDGAR page www.sec.gov/edgar.shtml . All information within this website is qualified in its entirety by the detailed information and financial statements of the featured company contained in its regulatory filings with the SEC. The statements contained herein does not purport to be a complete study of the featured Company or other companies mentioned. Information used and may have been obtained from the featured Company and/or other sources, but not verified nor guaranteed by Doublingstocks.com as to completeness or accuracy. Such information is subject to change without notice. Trademarks are the property of their respective owners. Duplication of this report without the expressed written permission of Doublingstocks.com is strictly prohibited. This disclaimer may change from time to time without any further notice.

This was taken straight from their website:

Here is the link: http://doublingstocks.com/terms.php

The section regarding 40k in compensation from TRGD was recently removed from their website. Take a look. These guys are slimy fcks!

[Pigeoninator]

has anyone noticed TRGD has gone up and stayed there? i would have thought it would have sank after the tuesday

[Luc1Grunt]

has anyone noticed TRGD has gone up and stayed there? i would have thought it would have sank after the tuesday


Damn! Now we have to admit the service is worth the money. I'm enrolling today. Penny stocks are always a safe bet.

[Pigeoninator]

I'm just saying, you all say that theres no possible way to make money and that the only guy that makes money is this Michael fellow but if I had bought stock I could sell it now or tomorrow for profit. We all know it's a scam but it could profit more than Michael.

[Luc1Grunt]

I'm just saying, you all say that theres no possible way to make money and that the only guy that makes money is this Michael fellow but if I had bought stock I could sell it now or tomorrow for profit. We all know it's a scam but it could profit more than Michael.


Hold on there Skipper....I don't recall anyone saying you couldn't make money from pennies. I know myself and Hedge both talked about riding the gravy train while there is an opportunity. I have played them and will play them in the future IF I see them hyped up all to hell and think I can get in and out for a ton of shares. I personnaly feel they are the unltimate "Suckers Game", but that is my opinion only.

The scrutiny came from the method of "hype" and those poor souls led to believe they can get something for nothing from someone who appears to want to help them. That game has been going on long before we were born and will go on long after we are dead.

Bottom line.....NOTHING NEW HERE. It's just a few folks had to call BullShat on this particular Snake Oil marketer (who is still advertising on this very forum mind you).

Learn to fish and you will not have to settle for carp thrown from a truck.

:mrgreen:

[Pigeoninator]

I never said you couldn't make money from pennies either, on the contrary, I'm trying to get in the market. But I'm talking about DoublingStocks if you would be kind enough to read my posts. People say it's impossible to make money from the companies they pick, but if I had bought stock in TRGD when they recommended it I could sell now and make money.

Another thing I don't get is, if no one makes any money on their stocks at least the first two times DS send out picks then how do they expect to keep pumping the stock? Wouldn't people just say to themselves it's a scam and have nothing to do with it thus rendering the entire DS program useless. Some of their 'customers' are obviously making money because they can't rely on new people signing up. Of course I don't know the numbers they have signing up to their newsletter each week but if they're relying on having new people each week sign up and buy their recommended stock wouldn't they want the people to continue to buy their other recommendations?

[Pigeoninator]

Just take a look at this and tell me i'm wrong:

http://www.marketwatch.com/quotes/trgd

It's gone up 40% since they mentioned it last week and it looks like it's going stay around the 0.70 mark for a while and probably go higher.

[Luc1Grunt]

Pigeon. NO ONE SAID...you couldn't make money. NO ONE.

You said you made money the day it gapped up. You said it.

I said you could not have.

My last post to this thread....Langoliers are coming and we are not on the plane together.

:mrgreen:

[Pigeoninator]

So rather than moan and cry about it, why not discuss how we can exploit this and make profit from these guys.

[smartinvestor30]

I would just like to add that they have not given me my $20 for reading the page. They say we will paypal you $20 or $40 for the salvation army. I chose $20 for myself and am yet to see it in my paypal account.

[CarlJ]

Pigeoninator, D.S. like anything else can't and shouldn't be adjudicated on only one element, or one or two Robotic stock picks made by the programming miracle that we know as MARL. Like a Blind Robot can occasionally find a good penny stock, even a Blind Squirrel can find a nut once in a while. The thing is, this Blind Robotic Squirrel claims to find nuts consistently. Go back and chart all the picks and see what they look like from the entry point the subscribers could get in at. See if DS did as they claimed they would and told you when to buy and when to sell, remember their literature CLAIMED you didn't need to know anything just follow his advise and cash in.

Almost any past page can be fond HERE (http://www.archive.org/web/web.php), since he has obviously been changing verbage based on what has been posted in this thread.



The next big pick for today is HSXI.PK, he and yahoo show a 52wk low of .13 cent, lowtrades shows a 52 wk low of .07 cent. :? Unless it drops you probably won't get in under .15 today.


Anyone who reads this thread in it's entirity will see the major complaints about D.S. are not the stock picks alone, the underhandedness goes way deeper than that. There are FREE Penny Stock Newsletters who have as good picks as D.S. like hototc, otcstockexchange etc. Investing in any pennyStock based solely on a P&D recommendation is a fools folly. Look up the penny stock man at the SEC site for a good example.

[CarlJ]

Looks like HSXI.PK shot up, this PROVES something.8O It open at .20 today from yesterdays close of .13. So far if you got in yesterday you're making money.

[Pigeoninator]

ye but how can you get in yesturday when they only tell you when the markets closed? How can you do after hours trading?

[freakscene]

ye but how can you get in yesturday when they only tell you when the markets closed? How can you do after hours trading?

its really not that difficult.

you cant

[tryk43]

That is classic. It opens at .25 and is down .02 on the day thus far.

I love doubling stocks!

[tryk43]

HSXI Sucks, its all hype! NLIA Sucks, its all hype! TRGD sucks, its all hype.

[microhedge]

Yes... follow me my sheep, hearken unto my voice...

[microhedge]

Just thought I would share this little pearl of wisdom that came inside the HSXI pick I found in my inbox... MARL is apparently lagging a bit so our dear Michael, or Nithy as we have come to know him here, has resided to scanning the free boards for a morsel or two...


Marl had made a few good technical picks, but non I considered
fundamentally strong enough to tell you about.

So on Wednesday morning I set about looking for another good
play (not as easy as it sounds). I was casually browsing the
biggest gainers and biggest losers on a few penny stock ranking
sites, viewing the charts, and breezing over the
companies fundamentals.

I was pleasantly surprised to find a stock I had recommended
to be sold because it was due for a pull-back on the biggest
losers list. The stocks ticker is HSXI.PK and the company name
is HealthSonix Inc.

Press on dear Michael, press on... there are plenty of willing sheep out there!

[Pigeoninator]

i wish i was rich like michael

[microhedge]

I wish Cool Whip was good for my skin.

Any other random comments? Anyone?

[tryk43]

Taken directly from their "Terms of Agreement"

"doublingstocks.com is planned to be compensated a total of seventy five thousand dollars for a thirty day profile coverage of hsxi from a non controlling third party Nothing on this website is a solicitation to buy or sell any securities."

Gettin it from all angles.

[MylesG]

I signed up for doublingstock's a couple months ago, figured it was a scam but figured why not. I have been trying to figure out a way to take advantage of its picks though. I know E-trade and Fidelity offer Extended hours trading for a small commission, I think an additional .005 per share. I haven't tried it yet with stocks not traded on major indexes. Does anyone know if it would be possible to place an extended hours order at 8 AM, and get in cheaper during the premarket? Make a quick 50% and get out right after the market opens?

[randomplatypi]

Thinking of starting a newsletter...anyone want to get in on it. It's called Darts & Ouija.

[microhedge]

I'm in!! I see exponential profits!8O

[netwrangler]

Thinking of starting a newsletter...anyone want to get in on it. It's called Darts & Ouija.


I'm in!! I see exponential profits!8OI'll sue both of yuz for stealing my secret system!

[Pigeoninator]

I signed up for doublingstock's a couple months ago, figured it was a scam but figured why not. I have been trying to figure out a way to take advantage of its picks though. I know E-trade and Fidelity offer Extended hours trading for a small commission, I think an additional .005 per share. I haven't tried it yet with stocks not traded on major indexes. Does anyone know if it would be possible to place an extended hours order at 8 AM, and get in cheaper during the premarket? Make a quick 50% and get out right after the market opens?

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Etrade have extended hours untill 8pm EDT. But if someone could enlighten me about the risks of after hours trading? It has 'limited orders' all over it but do they mean they might not be able to buy shares from that company at that time or do they mean the ammount of shares you can buy?

[netwrangler]

Yeah that's what I was thinking. Etrade have extended hours untill 8pm EDT. But if someone could enlighten me about the risks of after hours trading? It has 'limited orders' all over it but do they mean they might not be able to buy shares from that company at that time or do they mean the ammount of shares you can buy?My take on extended hours trading is:

The good news is that you can trade before and after the 'regular' market hours. This might be key when reacting to news that is revealed outside of regular hours.
The bad news is that the extended hours trading volume is much thinner than the regular hours market volume. If it's just a straight trade you want, you might not get the [regular] market price on execution of your order.

I do not trade in extended hours.
I hope that others, especially those that do trade in the extended hours, will add their comments.

[MylesG]

The only thing I am not sure of is:

A.) Whether over the counter securities can be traded during extended hours.

B.) If they were allowed, finding someone who is trying to sell that security during those hours I imagine would be difficult.

But nonetheless, I am going to attempt it next pick, can't try it with this one, HENC, because my funds are tied up.

Can anyone prove this is not possible so that I don't waste my time?

[CarlJ]

This dead horse needs another flogging. The deception sinks a bit lower.
[I am no longer a subscriber, got my money back from Clickbank (no questions asked). ]
So, I got the email at the bottom of this post today.


Also, if you go to the DS website you'll see that "Michael" now lists his address as:
"Oh and by the way Michael's company "Global Marketing Corporation Ltd" is located at 93 S. Jackson Street #56595, Seattle, WASHINGTON 98104-2818, UNITED STATES. That's right across from City Hall and exactly opposite the Public Library. If you have any questions, you can open a support ticket at his help desk (http://support.doublingstocks.com) or call him on (44)7835400828." (yahoo maps doesn't find this as a valid "street" address, but it IS a remote mail address http://www.earthclassmail.com/remote-addresses also used by indulgence handbags. http://www.indulgencehandbags.com/contact.html )
Next:
This UK site (http://www.ukdata.com/numbers/06074578.html) and this one (http://www.simplycreditreports.com/company-number/06074578.html) lists them as being at the quail ridge address with a twist
"12 WELL RIDGE CLOSE
RED HOUSE
FARM
WHITLEY BAY
TYNE AND WEAR
NE25 9PN"
which was previously demonstrated to be a ruse.
And he has a new video up proving to the perps Marl can pick stocks using hsxi, the one he says he scanned the boards for....:oops:
Also note his attention to detail is lacking as he forgot to update his new scam mailing address in the email.

"Carlj, This is about YOU!
Michael to me

show details 12:48 AM (22 hours ago)



Reply


Carlj

I'm emailing to let you know DoublingStocks will
be releasing a stock pick... In just 12 hours,
which we believe will be a huge homerun.

And if you're not already a member of DoublingStocks...

Then Carl, I'm sorry but you're going to miss out
on a very profitable newsletter.

In addition I'm emailing to let you know we are almost
at full capacity.

Currently we have just 26 spaces left to join the DoublingStocks
newsletter.

And if you go to:


http://getresponse.com/t/9613688/620551/190875498/


... And scroll right down to the bottom.

It'll have a big black number, this is updated in real time,
and once that hits 0... The newsletter will be closed for good.


Best Regards,
Michael Cohen


P.S: If you're opening this email more than 12 hours after it
was sent then, I'm sorry but...

...There most likely won't be any spaces left.

Check here: http://getresponse.com/t/9613688/620551/190875498/



Global Marketing Corporation
12 Well Ridge Close
Whitley Bay
Tyne and Wear NE25 9PN
United Kingdom
--
To unsubscribe or to change your contact details, visit:"

[iamdacian]

so guys anyone of you happy with this subscription? does it worth to look at?

also, i would like to try to be a tester for the application but i don't want to pay the maintenance fee because i don't know if i'd like to do it long term... is anyone willing to share it? :)

[CarlJ]

As of my posting above http://www.indulgencehandbags.com/contact.html has removed the remote mail address from their contact page. Hmmmm, wonder why they'd suddenly do that.:?:

It appears Michael has also removed his video PROVING hsxi was the PROOF that Doubling Stocks was the real deal. Odd he'd want to remove such proof.

[iamdacian]

this thread is huuuuuge :)
in the end is anyone of you happy with this subscription? any value in it?

[CarlJ]

It appears Michael has also removed his video PROVING hsxi was the PROOF that Doubling Stocks was the real deal. Odd he'd want to remove such proof.

looks like it's at http://doublingstocks.com/index-news.php

[Luc1Grunt]

Just wanted to see this on top again. A must read for all. ;)

[MylesG]

UPDATE:

For those of you who were unsure, extended hours trading is not available for pink sheet or over the counter securities. Just tried it with the latest pick, TRGD.

[CarlJ]

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=24568899

This is from Oct 29 post, "Doubling Stocks planned to be compensated a total of forty thousand dollars for thirty day profile coverage to promote TRGD.PK" http://www.pinksheetstocksblog.com/

[microhedge]

its absolutely amazing though that MARL the stock trading robot has picked TRGD yet again... wow!!! After the first pump and dump, MARL picks at random this little diamond in the rough again!!!

Oh do tell Michael!!! How is this robot so accurate?!

It keeps picking the stocks you're being compensated to pump!!!

Wow!!!!

8O

[Luc1Grunt]

Stock Trading "Robot"... (http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/iclk?sa=l&ai=BT-ZDOt4-R6OyKZOk4QKLxei4Cub-jTSS4e22A-Kf8_oV0NOQARABGAMg5uaZAjgAUIj3oCZgyZ7Yh-ijoBWgAeHLvP8DqgEKOTQwNjY4Mzg1ObIBGnd3dy5vbmxpbmV0 cmFkZXJzZm9ydW0uY29tugEJMjM0eDYwX2FzyAEB2gEraHR0cD ovL3d3dy5vbmxpbmV0cmFkZXJzZm9ydW0uY29tL2luZGV4LnBo cOABAsACAagDAcgDB-gDa_UDAgEAAA&num=3&adurl=http://dtcoach2.affstocks.hop.clickbank.net/%3Ftid%3DG201ST&client=ca-pub-5629832292254368&nm=18)
Earns You $346.77 Per Week (Managing $1000 Capital). aff.

This is what the link at the top of this forum says. (by the way, it does not offend me in any way).

SO, has anyone realized even a small percentage of the claims....

anyone?

Hello?

So if I multiply the trading capital as stated above ($1000) by 10 I would earn 3467.70 a week. Multiplied by 100 would be 34,670.77 a week. Damn.....So with $100,000, even if I only make half of what they claim I will make $17335 a week. SOLD!!!!!!! If anyone wants to pool a little money, we should easily be able to gross about 2 million a week because I will not stop with my 100k. PM me, I'll get you in the pool. I'll take care of margin.

It might seem they are marketing to those with money they could not afford to lose. Hmmmmm.

Hold on, TV commercial says I can be a millionaire web merchant for $39.95...let me grab my wallet and phone.

OK, where were we...anyone?

Hello?

:roll:

I think I'll pop this to the top daily.

[microhedge]

I think I'll pop this to the top daily

Oh, it's definitely worth it... A MUST READ!

I check back constantly just to be refreshed and to see if we've attracted any defenders of the DS reich:wink:

[Harlis]

Can someone tell me how that newsletter work

And which trading is the best for you to do that : e-trade, scott or tradeking (this one offer 4. 95)

Can any of you who using newsleters Marl let me know a few stock names past week or two you made $$ , not lose.

I almost ready to subscribe, read a lot of reviews and think 47 bucks will not hurt me... to try. But I am "green" in trading . Any advise?

Harlis

[microhedge]

Yes Harlis, I have advice...

Read this entire thread from beginning to end, then ask your question again.

I'm serious.

[Luc1Grunt]

Can someone tell me how that newsletter work

And which trading is the best for you to do that : e-trade, scott or tradeking (this one offer 4. 95)

Can any of you who using newsleters Marl let me know a few stock names past week or two you made $$ , not lose.

I almost ready to subscribe, read a lot of reviews and think 47 bucks will not hurt me... to try. But I am "green" in trading . Any advise?

Harlis

Learn english........don't use slang (bucks) when you have no clue of how to use grammar......buy every penny stock you are told to buy.

Now that is advice you should take (from strangers). Happy mumbling.

:roll:

[Harlis]

[QUOTE=Luc1Grunt;84586]Learn english........don't use slang (bucks) when you have no clue of how to use grammar......buy every penny stock you are told to buy.

Now that is advice you should take (from strangers). Happy mumbling.

No one told me to buy any penny stocks yet. And thank you for advise to learn english. I am fluent in two languages and english is my third one. How many languages you can use in your life?
I come to this country with almost 0 knowledge of english. And english is not an easy language to learn when you over 40. So please be pationed and polite with those kind of advises. It is easy to laugh at a stranger, but sometimes hard to look at the mirrow-try sometimes. It might be helpfull.

My question was - is anyone here can recommend me to begin with :
e-trade,scott ,fidellity ,tradeking or something else. Is this is a hard one
Or it is a selfishness?

Sincerely,
Harlis

[Luc1Grunt]

[quote=Luc1Grunt;84586]Learn english........don't use slang (bucks) when you have no clue of how to use grammar......buy every penny stock you are told to buy.

Now that is advice you should take (from strangers). Happy mumbling.

No one told me to buy any penny stocks yet. And thank you for advise to learn english. I am fluent in two languages and english is my third one. How many languages you can use in your life?
I come to this country with almost 0 knowledge of english. And english is not an easy language to learn when you over 40. So please be pationed and polite with those kind of advises. It is easy to laugh at a stranger, but sometimes hard to look at the mirrow-try sometimes. It might be helpfull.

My question was - is anyone here can recommend me to begin with :
e-trade,scott ,fidellity ,tradeking or something else. Is this is a hard one
Or it is a selfishness?

Sincerely,
Harlis

I understand you plight on language, and very very much so. Pashtu, Farsi, and Urdu ring a bell?

Read some of this thread a bit and you'll get a lot of info.

Each broker you listed is good. That is why they stay in business. If you get three recomendations for three different brokers...there you are. Same place you started.

We are strangers. Well, maybe not GZapper, he is everyone's conscious.

Good luck.......sorry if I was a little abrasive.....I just gotta be me. :lol:

[Luc1Grunt]

A few spelling errors just go to show we are all human.

[Pigeoninator]

it's a scam im afraid

[Luc1Grunt]

it's a scam im afraid


Thanks Mr. Obvious. And that whole "the earth is round" thing has already been covered as well.

Have a happy Pigeon, er, uh, Turkey Day pigeoneater.

:arrow:........................:lol:

[Pigeoninator]

You're a bit of a fag you know that. You can't just tell the guy it's a scam, instead you write some stupid little speech because you think people give a toss about your opinion.

[Harlis]

[quote=Harlis;84596]

I understand you plight on language, and very very much so. Pashtu, Farsi, and Urdu ring a bell?

Read some of this thread a bit and you'll get a lot of info.

Each broker you listed is good. That is why they stay in business. If you get three recomendations for three different brokers...there you are. Same place you started.

We are strangers. Well, maybe not GZapper, he is everyone's conscious.

Good luck.......sorry if I was a little abrasive.....I just gotta be me. :lol:
==============
See.. Now we go:) Thank you for being more open and polite.
I know , all three of your mentioned languages are mideast-asian rooted
First is Persian , old language. (Book for kids "thousand & one night was readed to me as a kid numerous times...remember the persian flying carpet...:)::):" . People, I think , still use it in Iran, Afhanistan and Tadhikistan . The last one in one sad time to remember -was one time our "brother neighbor =SSSR
Second is mostly used in Afghanistan. I lost two friends there because they was forced to serve in USSR army in 1978-80 there , third one I lost because he become unpredictable an after 9 month back home hang himself .

Third your mentioned language is somewhere in India and/or Pakistan.
So I am assuming ...you are imigrant as I am... :) just learned langage faster :):):) And all three are from the same roots :)

Because you try to be openminded now (I hope) I will try too. I speak fluent Lithuanian (hindueuropean-baltic) ,Russian (salvic-totaly different language root and grammar) , slightly understand Polish and Latvian . If I will be dropped in the middle of Check, Slovak or former Soviet Yougoslavian countries witch all are Slavic speaking ,some slavic, some latin grammar countries , I think it will be easier for me to learn grammar there too.

Anyway, thank you for more polite respond and advise .
But your advise doesn't say a lot. Ones trade for 9-8 bucks (sorry- dollars) other like Tradeking for 4.95. But there I am assuming some tricks are hidden ( always are) And because you are already in it ,my question was -wich one is the best to start.

Do we should follow knowledge of languages like :
Russian :
"When money speaks, the truth keeps silent"

Or we can follow Farsi :
Cloud, wind, moon, and sky are at work. And when you earn a piece of bread, do not eat it in ignorance.

Good luck with your bets.

Harlis




Unlikely , I think I just choose one and go forward . Will see what happens.

[Luc1Grunt]

Harlis, I think I understand a little better now.

Your question on brokers is still to broad.

Some things to consider:

Price, customer service, tools and charts, instruments available (options, futures, forex etc.), money market rate on idle money, margin available, ease of deposits and withdrawals are all questions you must answer first.

If you are going to daytrade with a large acount base....I would say interactive brokers. At $.005 a share, it is cheap and the money market on idle money is decent. Tradestation does not pay well....but their rates are low as well.

Many options brokers for cheap. Options express.

If you are going to swing trade a few stocks a week or month, the large discount brokers are great for doing just that....TD Ameritrade, Scottrade, etc.

If you are going to invest...maybe look at Sharebuilder or better yet, find stocks with a DRiP and commit monthly.

Zecco and Tradebuilder I am not familiar with.

I would caution against a penny stock newsletter. My opinion of course, but the odds are stacked against you in so many ways with penny stocks. Others will strongly disagree.

Welcome to the forum. 8)

[Luc1Grunt]

You're a bit of a fag you know that. You can't just tell the guy it's a scam, instead you write some stupid little speech because you think people give a toss about your opinion.

Pigeon, I coached 2nd grade soccer....are you Pepe the wonderdog?

"a bit of a fag". He, he. If you met me you would like me, then after you know more about me you would fear me. I don't believe you will ever have the opportunity for either.

French fries are done.

[Harlis]

[QUOTE=Luc1Grunt;84707]Harlis, I think I understand a little better now.

Your question on brokers is still to broad.
===
Thank you
Thats an answer I was expectin at first. But as I already find out here in US, you need to pland a money tree yourself , watering and take care of it well and might in some preriod of time it will bloom for you in green :)

I am planting my tree. I'll let you know latter if it bloom:)

Good luck.
By the way -soccker rules . And basketball is our religion in the country I was born :)
Sad thing is- I probably never will understand #1 us sport -baseball. Boring to the bone, fat and old guys play , and spit everywhere in the field... every 2-3 min. Gross. But it is just me. Who born here and grew up- they look at this one as a kind of religion too...

Have a good rest of this sunday !

Harlis

[Dinvest]

I unfortunately bought into this scam before I came across this forum. I was hoping to jump into the penny stock game with this "tool" but apparently its useless. So now that I have it, is there any way I can profit from it.

Today the newsletter suggested we invest in SGUS, which is up 52%.

If I had placed an order right as the market opened would I have been able to profit from this stock?

Now that it is up 52%, if I had purchased and held onto the stock, would it be hard for me to sell out now?

Also, what is a safe amount of money to be investing in these stocks in terms of being able to sell them after they have gone up or down?

Thanks in advance,

Doug

[Luc1Grunt]

I unfortunately bought into this scam before I came across this forum. I was hoping to jump into the penny stock game with this "tool" but apparently its useless. So now that I have it, is there any way I can profit from it.

Today the newsletter suggested we invest in SGUS, which is up 52%.

If I had placed an order right as the market opened would I have been able to profit from this stock?

Now that it is up 52%, if I had purchased and held onto the stock, would it be hard for me to sell out now?

Also, what is a safe amount of money to be investing in these stocks in terms of being able to sell them after they have gone up or down?

Thanks in advance,

Doug

Doug, the few pennies I have played succesfully all have one thing in common......PUMP. It has to be during the pump. Check across many boards including Yahoo for the PUMP. You need a hair trigger on the sell button and include the "monday morning pumpers". They exist to feed the sellers. Unloading a million shares of **** takes buyers....don't be on the wrong side side.

I have NEVER seen a good tool to EFFECTIVELY buy penny stocks. That includes news. TA is useless. Fundies are useless.

Penny stocks under a PUMP have "news" everyday or "NEWS IS COMING SOON".

Look at it from a macro perspective and track a couple just for fun. You'll see the same patterns over and over. IT IS GAMBLING with the odds NOT in your favor.

I really don't care about the potential profits, that is the lure. With the potential comes the risk. I like to keep the odds in MY FAVOR.

That knowledge will keep you successful........GUARANTEED.

I'll give you a money back guarantee not to lose any money if you don't play them, L.O.L

IMO of course....:lol:

[Luc1Grunt]

As a side note I would say there are those on this forum who seem to be successful with pennies....maybe participate in the chat for a few days and log the picks to a chart....do your own reserach in the "safe zone" with no money in play.

Trust me, there will be trades tomorrow. What appears to be "getting away" today will present itself again soon.

:arrow::idea:

[microhedge]

As a side note I would say there are those on this forum who seem to be successful with pennies....maybe participate in the chat for a few days and log the picks to a chart....do your own reserach in the "safe zone" with no money in play.

Trust me, there will be trades tomorrow. What appears to be "getting away" today will present itself again soon.

:arrow::idea:

Very wise words indeed Luc1

This mornings email from our dear Michael was just so impressive, i had to share a bit with you. It seems he forgot to fill in some empty spaces in his form letter before hitting send :lol: I'm so excited at the potential of making "X"


If you got in on SGUS today, you'll no doubt be
well aware of the massive XX% gain it made, starting
at $X and hitting a high of $X.

See: http://getresponse.com/t/9707246/620551/191503159/

And the stock went on to close at $X, up X% for the day.

Meaning had you invested $5000 when I sent the email
this morning... You could quite easily be telling your
family about the $3000 profit you made today.

[Luc1Grunt]

Doug, Micro being one to watch....he plays them to success.

I always wonder why the "pump" letters never really spam you on when to sell. If they are so interested in you making money, why not an exit? Think about that for a bit. If an exit strategy does exist, it will usually be ambiguous or with very broad parameters.

If you trust someone's call, you should trust their exit right? In fact, I think you should DEMAND it.

Especially if they can't really give you a good reason to buy (other than hype or "news"). If you don't know why you are buying, no way in hell will you know when to exit.

Typical newbie sucker play:

Stock went up a bit, realizing small profit on paper: "Buy more, it's really gonna go

STock staggered: "It will move with volume / news coming"

Stock retraces to your break even: "Good time to buy the dip, news is coming, needs volume"

Stock dives, you now hold a loser: "News is coming / this is a good long-term play"

Sucker.

IMO.

[Dinvest]

Basically I need someone to explain how it's a major risk if I just jump in and out early. Pehaps, just buy the stock right as the market opens and 1 minute later, start selling it. If the stock goes up wouldnt I make some profit?

And for the record the newsletter came with an exit of something like $1.35 - which at this point looks quite unrealistic.

[sarahX]

I just gotta put in my two cents here. Wow, this guy Michael is the lowest of the low. I'm amazed that anyone can come here, read this thread, and still be interested in subscribing to his BS robot picks!!

To recap - for two fake picks, he got paid over a hundred grand from the companies themselves, for selling them to you, hundreds if not thousands of subscribers who bought in @ $47 a piece - and he bought the stock the night before he told all his subscribers about it, so he could pull this pump and dump scheme and make money selling to all his suckers who are buying - so he makes $47 X however many subscribers, over a hundred grand, and however much he can get out of the bogus stock pick he's promoting - and yet people still come here wanting to get in on his action??

This absurdly rich con artist is preying on people with big hopes and not a lot of money and making the big bucks in 3 ways off the suckers he plays... the lowest of the low. The companies are throwing money at him, while the poor suckers he tricks are mostly just throwing their money away in blind faith on worthless picks because they can't get in and out fast enough...

And not only does he fake this whole robot story, he uses a totally fake name and address. Wonder who he has the checks made out to when he's dealing with the companies that pay him to promote? Who is this guy, and how can what he's doing be the slightest big legal? Sounds like a huge scam to me!

[netwrangler]

I just gotta put in my two cents here. Wow, this guy Michael is the lowest of the low. I'm amazed that anyone can come here, read this thread, and still be interested in subscribing to his BS robot picks!!

To recap - for two fake picks, he got paid over a hundred grand from the companies themselves, for selling them to you, hundreds if not thousands of subscribers who bought in @ $47 a piece - and he bought the stock the night before he told all his subscribers about it, so he could pull this pump and dump scheme and make money selling to all his suckers who are buying - so he makes $47 X however many subscribers, over a hundred grand, and however much he can get out of the bogus stock pick he's promoting - and yet people still come here wanting to get in on his action??

This absurdly rich con artist is preying on people with big hopes and not a lot of money and making the big bucks in 3 ways off the suckers he plays... the lowest of the low. The companies are throwing money at him, while the poor suckers he tricks are mostly just throwing their money away in blind faith on worthless picks because they can't get in and out fast enough...

And not only does he fake this whole robot story, he uses a totally fake name and address. Wonder who he has the checks made out to when he's dealing with the companies that pay him to promote? Who is this guy, and how can what he's doing be the slightest big legal? Sounds like a huge scam to me!sarahX, That's a great first post.
I think you found a home here with plenty of friends.

Welcome to the OTF. :)

[sarahX]

awww thanks ... :)
This scam looks vaguely familiar... the fake UK mailing address, the probably disposable phone number, the inability to reach them on the phone, the style of writing - either these con artists are all the same or it could be that I recognize their style from when I was scammed in a whole different business sector a couple years back. Gotta love their imagination, the magic genie, pulling doubling stock picks out of a robot. lol...

[Dinvest]

I am still missing the big picture and I am waiting for someone to clear everything up for me.

We all agree that this is a pump and dump stock scheme, so the price of the stock goes up a considerable amount (up 81% at one point for last pick). So my question still remains, why cant you buy in early and then immediately sell?

Since we all know what really goes on with this "stock robot" can't we benefit by buying and selling within the first half hour of the market opening?

[Pinguin]

Ok I still get the newsletters....quite fun to read, and depressing for those that give in to the scam...The problem is with the last play you could not have bought in at the open price because the pick didn't come out until a couple hours after open....with stuff like this the focus is for the scammed to be buying while the scammer is selling

[netwrangler]

I am still missing the big picture and I am waiting for someone to clear everything up for me.

We all agree that this is a pump and dump stock scheme, so the price of the stock goes up a considerable amount (up 81% at one point for last pick). So my question still remains, why cant you buy in early and then immediately sell?

Since we all know what really goes on with this "stock robot" can't we benefit by buying and selling within the first half hour of the market opening?If you buy low and sell high, you will make a profit.

Looks like that's easier said than done here — especially with all the fluff floating around this site.
To the extent you are sure you can pull off a profitable trade, I am not sure about your "bonefides."

[Dinvest]

Ok I still get the newsletters....quite fun to read, and depressing for those that give in to the scam...The problem is with the last play you could not have bought in at the open price because the pick didn't come out until a couple hours after open....with stuff like this the focus is for the scammed to be buying while the scammer is selling

Actually, the newsletter came in on sunday, the day before. I think I will give it a shot and see if I cant get in and out quick enough to come away with a profit.

[microhedge]

NO, the SGUS news hit Monday after market close... I get the newsletter, I subscribed so I could start this stupid thread... here is the header from my email.


Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:36:13
subjectDoublingStocks - Don't Let This Opportunity Pass!
mailed-bycitius.getresponse.com
signed-bygetresponse.com

hide details Nov 26 (1 day ago) Reply

Micro,

Company: SHIMING US INC
Ticker: SGUS.OB (OTCBB)
Target Price: $ 3.92
Yahoo Finance: http://getresponse.com/t/9705348/620551/191503159/
Company Website: http://getresponse.com/t/9705349/620551/191503159/

Now, Dinvest, using your theory, you would have lost money as the stock promptly lost value upon open. I WILL PERSONALLY GUARANTEE if you use your theory, you will eventually lose every penny you now have to invest.
I PROMISE.

If you want to play pennies, you are playing two kinds of games... Pump and Dumps of which comprises 99% of the penny world and Real companies with a product and/or service and a future. You have to do your homework to discover for yourself exactly what it is you're looking for. I am here to tell you their is huge money to be made in a good P&D, but its risky and its scary and I sure as hell wouldn't make a buy and walk away. YOU ONLY PLAY IF YOU CAN STAY... period!!!

To SarahX, I'm with Net... some good first posts, thank you.

[Dinvest]

NO, the SGUS news hit Monday after market close... I get the newsletter, I subscribed so I could start this stupid thread... here is the header from my email.



Now, Dinvest, using your theory, you would have lost money as the stock promptly lost value upon open. I WILL PERSONALLY GUARANTEE if you use your theory, you will eventually lose every penny you now have to invest.
I PROMISE.

If you want to play pennies, you are playing two kinds of games... Pump and Dumps of which comprises 99% of the penny world and Real companies with a product and/or service and a future. You have to do your homework to discover for yourself exactly what it is you're looking for. I am here to tell you their is huge money to be made in a good P&D, but its risky and its scary and I sure as hell wouldn't make a buy and walk away. YOU ONLY PLAY IF YOU CAN STAY... period!!!


You are absolutely right, I mixed up the "warning" email and the actual email. The night before "Michael" sent out a letter stating that we should be ready to invest tomorrow (monday) however it was not until monday at 9:55 when he told the subscribers to invest.

My mistake!

[Luc1Grunt]

Sarah...great post and welcome.

Doug....I guess at this point you need to do what you need to do. If you make a killing you win. If you lose, you lose. The folks giving you warnings do not really matter....it IS YOUR MONEY.

But ask yourself why would strangers warn against it? What is in it for them? nothing.

Then, ask yourself why would a stranger and shady con-artist want you to play a stock they recommend? What is in it for them? $ $ $ $ $

If they charge you for the service, why are they not grabbing a couple million shares themselves and not have to deal with customers? They would be awfully wealthy without all the headaches.

Is it because of their love of humanity?

:roll:

I think you are right....you should learn on your own and grab some shares and sell before the music stops..

I don't believe I can give a better explanation than that.

[CarlJ]

Anyone who subscribed to doublingstocks can make a quick $47.00 by going to clickbank and telling them you were scammed and you want a refund, if that fails contest the charge with your financial institution. Other than that good luck.

(Hopefully this tag will work and get this thread listed on the doublingstocks page at technorati)
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[Dinvest]

Anyone who subscribed to doublingstocks can make a quick $47.00 by going to clickbank and telling them you were scammed and you want a refund, if that fails contest the charge with your financial institution. Other than that good luck.

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Thanks Carl, I will definately do that!

And Luc - you are right I just didnt want to let go of my dream

[TgaGuy]

I too seem to have fallen into this trap.
Ive just sent off my refund request to ClickBank.

I agree with whats being said about this weeks pick coming out late, so i contested it with DS.

Here are some replys. Short and not answering questions I asked. A**holes.

"Recieved : from gr-perl2-0-114.v.l ([192.168.0.114]) by mm2.getresponse.com with QMQP; 26 Nov 2007 11:30:53 -0500 (EST)" This is them sending it.
"Recieved : from mm2.getresponse.com ([207.8.198.31]) by ironport-mx01.maxnet.net.nz with ESMTP; 27 Nov 2007 05:30:54 +1300" This is my ISP recieving it.
"Recieved : from ironport-smtp01.maxnet.net.nz (ironport-smtp01.maxnet.net.nz [123.100.71.100]) by mailfilter03.maxnet.net.nz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C5E27EC75 for <mrt@maxnet.co.nz>; Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:30:55 +1300 (NZDT)" This is it being delivered to my mailbox by my ISP.

I emailed them these facts and got this....

Hello,

The stock opened at 55c and that was when we made the reccomendation.

Best Regards
Support

So i replied....

Yes it did open at 55c but you didnt send out emails until 11:30am, 2 hours later, by then the stock was at .88c.

reply.... seemingly personally by Micheal.

Hello,

We released the pick during market open because we perceive it to be safer for our investors
encase there has been any change in the market overnight.

Best Regards,
Michael Cohen

Sent them another....

How come my email didnt get sent by you untill 11:30am EST that morning?

Awaiting a reply.... dont like my chances...


Dinvest : You got yours at 9:55 ???

[Dinvest]

Dinvest : You got yours at 9:55 ???

Yes, mine was sent to me at 9:55 am. How did you get a personal response like that! I have sent them countless emails and they keep sending me automated emails... What email are you using?

[cacaosteve]

I love that the guy's name is "Michael", just like in the movie Boiler Room!

Can anyone upload Marl again? I don't want to pay $97 for it. I just subscribed so I will check out the newsletters and then try to get a refund.

Latest email:
I apologize for not sending out today's stock pick, we used
Marl to monitor the stock closely and felt that the stock
wasn't at its optimum entry point.

We anticipate the stock will drop to an even lower, more
profitable level over the next few days and thus I urge you
to check your emails (around market open, 9:30am EST).

[microhedge]

May God forgive me for starting this thread.

[Luc1Grunt]

May God forgive me for starting this thread.

I think it needs to be a sticky.


I notice the stockturd picking robot banner ad now has red arrows pointing at it.

Quality stuff boys, quality stuff.

[Thierry Martin]

By the way, we were running affiliate ads for DoublingStocks.com in rotation in our own ad space at the top of the forum pages a few weeks ago, and although sales were brisk at first, after a couple of weeks the refunds started coming in - I pulled all the ads, because we will not ads for programs that get more than 1 or 2% returns or refunds. (The google ads with the red arrows you see are served by Google, so sometimes you will see ads for DoublingStocks.com from third parties or even DoublingStocks.com paying Google for adspace.)

[gernburgs]

Here's an email I got when I asked some one if Marl works... From a guy named Ethan:

----
Hey,

Yeah so far everythings going well for me. I've made just in excess of $3700 since investing in doubling stocks in October with only $150. I'm soon hoping gain the confidence to invest greater sums. Sign up to the newsletter with a one off $47 payment, which advises what stock to buy and when, and also states when to sell. In order to trade find yourself a broker such as zecco. I hope this helps you make your decision and good luck with your picks. Any more queries drop me a line.

Ethan
----


The way this is written definitely makes me think the author is from Europe and certainly not an American... How he called it a "one-off payment. Sounds SUPER fishy to me.

[CarlJ]

This just hit my inbox 11:15 am:

Company: Skinvisible Inc
Ticker: SKVI.OB (OTCBB)
Target Price: $ 0.64
Yahoo Finance: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=SKVI.OB
Skinvisible Website: http://www.skinvisible.com/

I emailed you a few days ago with a stock I have been waiting 4
months to release. The stock (SKVI.OB) has only just hit what
Marl believes to be it's low, predicting the stock is
about to"bounce".

History has shown Marl to be remarkably accurate picking
stocks hitting their lows and has given our members some very
impressive gains in the past with this technique.

Look at this chart of SKVI.OB to see what I mean:

http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/c/6m/s/skvi.ob

As you can see in the short term SKVI.OB is almost certain
to trade much higher than the current low. The stock has
declined unjustifiably, being neglected by the market.

Which is what has created the perfect buying point!

But the technicals (the chart) are just one of the reasons
we really like this stock and indeed why we are picking it
right now. Because Skinvisible Inc has the growth potential
I have only ever seen in stocks that have made their
investors very rich.

As I mentioned yesterday Skinvisible's management team are the
driving force behind this pharmaceutical research and development
company. With decades of experience and a proven track record
in their respective roles. Let me tell you a bit about just
two members of the board:

Firstly there is Terry Howlett Skinvisibles CEO who has 30
years business management experience. With a track record of
guiding emerging and publicly traded start-up companies through
the stages of capital formation, strategic planning and
business growth.

Secondly there is James Roszell a doctoral chemist with
over 35 years' experience in product formulation. His invaluable
chemical and scientific expertise are key factors in Skinvisible's
innovative technological achievements.

Skinvisible truly does have one of the most experienced management
teams in it's sector. Which gives them a huge competitive
advantage and is arguably what has got this company to where
it stands today. But even the best management team is nothing
without a good business and Skinvisible is no different...

... Skinvisibles patented polymer delivery technology has
received international recognition.

The single piece of technology on which Skinvisibles entire
Invisicare product range is based has been making waves in
the industry. After being featured in "Drug Delivery" magazine
Skinvisible have been able to further license their technology
to established pharmaceutical, medical, cosmetic and
skincare manufacturers.

Skinvisible (SKVI.OB) capitalizes on this technology by
developing a diverse range of products and either licensing
them to established companies or selling them private label
for a consistent revenue stream.

The product range includes:

Invisicare - http://www.invisicare.com/

Safe 4 Hours - http://www.safe4hours.com/

Solerra - http://www.solerra.com/

Stopain – http://www.shop.stopain.com/

But Skinvisible haven't stopped there, they currently have a
wide range of products "in the pipeline" that is products
they have developed and tested in house. That are now ready
to be licensed to established manufacturers.

Skinvisible are at the stage of being able to profit from all
their work in researching and developing these products. And
when they are licensed and huge cash sums start to pour into
the business the stock price will literally rocket with
investors clambering to get in.

When you have a business with fundamentals as strong as this and a
management team like Skinvisibles you know you're onto a winner.

Most investors would be happy with that. Finding a top business
with a management team that can make things happen. But what
we look for in a stock is specifically where our return
will come from.

And SKVI.OB is no exception...

Because of Skinvisibles business model and the stage at which
they are currently at... this small company is ready to start
taking in a lot of money. What I mean is this:

Skinvisible (SKVI.OB) have researched and developed a wide
range of products based on their patented technology. They
now have an extensive product portfolio but no easy way to
take these products to market.

So what they do is approach the established pharmaceutical
and cosmetic companies, and license the product to them.
Which can bring a windfall of cash into Skinvisible (SKVI)
instantly.

And with Skinvisible having a large portfolio of products
with which they can do this, you can see why we really like
this stock.

Because this means growth..Growth in revenue.. Growth in
profit and with it growth in stock price..

But instead of investing when the figures are out and "everyone"
knows their earnings are growing extremely fast. We look
for companies where it's obvious that the company is ready
to make a lot of money and become a "growth stock" before any
financials are released and investors start buying it up.

Which is where the really big gains are made!

But even if we are to forget the growth potential, the fact
we are picking this stock now. When it's trading at levels
we consider to be extremely undervalued means this is also a
prime value investment.

What I mean by that is, this stock is trading so cheap relative
to a sensible valuation the market must soon correct. With SKVI.OB
increasing by up to 400% as the market realises it's true value.

So not only does this stock have alarming growth potential,
with a growing line of income streams and a low cost structure.
It is also trading at levels we consider vastly undervalued
due for a market correction as more investors learn about the
companies prospects.

Both of which mean SKVI.OB should be trading
much higher in the near future.

Which is why we believe anyone who invests into Skinvisible
now, is buying into an extremely fundamentally strong stock
with heaps of long term potential when it's at a unjustified low.

In the short term based on Marl's recommendation SKVI.OB is
almost certainly going to bounce from it's current low and
run much higher. Which is why I believe that if you are planning
to buy some stock in SKVI.OB it's absolutely urgent you do
right now to get in early before the stock runs.

See what SKVI.OB is at now: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=SKVI.OB

Best Regards,
Michael

[Dinvest]

This just hit my inbox 11:15 am:



Thats funny, mine came in at 9:41 am...

[TerribleTom]

Regarding Dinvest's post:

I purchased the newsletter thinking I might be able to find some good pump-and-dumps. After I had "earnered" enough money using their picks, I went back and figured, what the heck, I'll check out this Marl thing.

I then started to receive 2 sets of every email. One very early (around the same time as Dinvest's, and one quite late, generally after the pump like CarlJ's)

I have a theory that those who purchase Marl get the advantage of the early set of emails, and those who don't get shafted with the late ones. Of course, this could be totally wrong, and it could be completely arbitrary which set you receive. Either way, one group will profit, while the other is getting the shaft.

And continuing in their tradition of shadiness, they even screw their affiliates. I also do some affiliate programs, and I've heard (through objective sources, not from Doubling Stocks) that it's a great program with great commission and a high conversion rate, and that may be true, but here's where they screwed me - They have a hoplink generator on their affiliate website. I found this to be strange, so I verified that my clickbank hoplink did jump me to the same site as their generated link. So I set up my Google ads, went to bed, woke up the next morning and checked the traffic. Sure enough, I got hundreds of hits. Well that's just swell, I thought, and I went to check my clickbank balance. I didn't receive a single sale through this ad. I thought this was quite strange considering the amount of traffic I received. Surely one person out there must have purchased this product. I looked into the situation, and it turns out that unless I use the exact link given by clickbank, instead of the sitelink that this link points to, then clickbank has no way of tracking the sale. This is probably the newbiest of noob mistakes, and boy do I feel like an idiot, but I wouldn't expect to be screwed by a company that I am trying to sell a product for. So Doubling Stocks received hundreds of dollars worth of advertising at my expense, and didn't have to pay me one cent.

Between that business, and what I've read on this forum, I will not longer be representing this product. The profits I yielded from the newsletter picks were a joke anyway compared to my typical trading, and they screw people who are trying to sell their product to boot.

--TT

[Luc1Grunt]

Great post. That garbage is posted everywhere and to me it degrades any credibility a site may have.

Business is business and I appreciate that.....but scammer ads are just that.

[CarlJ]

I have a theory that those who purchase Marl get the advantage of the early set of emails, and those who don't get shafted with the late ones.

I feel cheated that they never tried to sell me the modern miracle stock picking robot. I only got the opportunity to get screwed with the newsletter. :cry:

[Lorenzo91]

So I bought the newsletter since I did not want to depend on you guys posting right after you get it which sounds tough.

My question is, they don't actually sent the newsletter during sunday, they send it in the middle of the day somehow. That is wack.

Can you guy tell me if you got yours because I am waiting for mine still.

[Luc1Grunt]

So I bought the newsletter since I did not want to depend on you guys posting right after you get it which sounds tough.

My question is, they don't actually sent the newsletter during sunday, they send it in the middle of the day somehow. That is wack.

Can you guy tell me if you got yours because I am waiting for mine still.


? Even after reading all this? 8O

[aiki14]

? Even after reading all this? 8O

It is getting obvious that if you put up a web site that said
Make money in the Stock market using the bag of s**t strategy, that's right send us 29.99 a month and we will send you a genuine bag of s**t
People would send you their money. It's like putting a shiny object in front of a ferret, it could be useless, poisonous, and sharp, but they are still gonna hide it under the couch. 20 pages of ragging on this ridiculous newsletter and people are still sending their money.

Alert to newbies
If you send your money for one of these newsletters, hell, if you seriously consider sending your money to one of these newsletters, you are not ready for the market.

[stocker07]

If you have experience of trading penny stocks you can make $ period
This is pump and dump, BUT you have to check stocks what you entering
to play, NOT ALL of them will fly. Some or most will open high and dump.
Some will open high and continue higher.
Can anybody just publish picks here without comments? Just curious
if this stupid 'Marl' showing the pick before they publish it..
And I read about you guys talking to trade After hours. This is not
possible with the Penny stock, I mean generally it might be possibly
but the spead for the stock let's say 0.25 would be like
bid 0.10
ask 0.50
And by the way I'm pretty much sure that These guys don't even buying
those stocks in the first place. You just have to understand how it works
Generally stock company will offer %5-7 of the total daily volume, whatever
you read in those news releases saying that doublingstocks were compensated $44000 for few days of advertising it's just a fiction.
They get paid by the Volume! if stock is 1$ and trading volume is 1 million
for that day and their cut is 7% that means they make $70k in that day alone.. So really your $47 and other crap is not that important. For most penny companies those shares cost $0, all they need is trading volume float
to unload those shares, that what they got after advertiser start shooting
their Newsletters out.. But again some of the stock would rise in price dramatically, and you do can double or more your money.. The only matter is
how many people actually are in the game.. More people it is, better.
Also other BIG factor is how this promoting company unloading their shares
slowly by portions or dumping like nuts.. If stock doesn't going no where,
that means they are dumping like crazy.. Anyways.. that be more than enough info for ya.. Can anyone just publish picks??? I can analyze them ;)

Good luck.

[Albert0373]

http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums/cocktail-lounge/56655-stock-trading-robot-any-experience-anyone.html

:lol:


Hey guys: I did quite a bit of research on this.What I found pretty complex. But the jist of it is that these people have quite a marketing powerhouse going. They are everywhere so the newsletter is or will be rivaling whatever is out there for pennies.

So it is a Pump and Dump. But it gets Better. Once you sign up they offer you to test Marl out for another 100$. It's essentially a program you install in your computer.

What sucks is that normal newsletter people get their pick what seems to be a few hours after the people who paid the extra 100$. So they even screw their customers.

I know this from somebody who got the program and has compared the time he gets his newsletter pick to another person who just paid 47$

So I bit the bullet paid the 47$ and am a newsletter member.

I will post the newsletter pick here with the content as soon as I get it if you guys want.

One more thing that sucks is that sometimes they give it in the middle of a trade day but that goes along with the fact someone had it before you.

Clearly pure marketing and pump and dump, but if you are in to that hat can I say. I guess I believe some of the people who have said they have made money.

A million things don't add up like the fact their American business adress does not exist and they are from the UK but it's not about that. Everybody knows it's a scam.:)

And now the grand finale.....the magic behind the Stock Trading Robot!!!


It is more than likely, if you are a stock trader and visit many investing websites, forums or blogs; you have probably run into the many advertisements and Google ads regarding the Stock Trading “Robot” found on www.DoublingStocks.com. This website purports two computer geeks named Michael and Carl have developed a computer software (robot) that can pick stocks using technical analysis.

They claim that the average returns have been over 105.28% within hours of the market opening after the picks have been sent to the subscribers. Investors will have to pay a $47 subscription to receive the picks that this “robot” comes up with. The stocks are usually penny stocks found on the OTC. This is not un-common when you have a service like this that has thousands of subscribers.

The OTC is very volatile and when a few thousand people all places a buy order after the market opens, you will see a very quick rise in the stock price. The volume will also increase on a penny stock that normally does not see much action. As reported by many subscribers, after this quick rise, it is usually followed with a quick drop in share price. Those that bought at the high will often lose money if the stock itself was not fundamentally sound in the first place.

This is the classic “pump and dump” scheme, which is highly illegal. The online marketer behind this service and all their affiliates should be ashamed of themselves. I would not be surprised if the SEC is currently scrutinizing this service at this time. There is nothing worse than online marketers promoting a product or service in an arena that they know nothing about and skirting the laws.

Understand that if the marketer is lining his pockets by buying the stocks before he issues the picks to his subscribers, he is breaking the law. It is my opinion that this service can not be trusted and may be headed for trouble with securities regulators. This is not the only “robot” that this marketer is promoting. It appears that there is another site called PokerBobby.com.

The two sites eerily look the same, but there seems to be some deliberate differences as captured below. The article’s author on DoublingStocks.com is a person named Tom Hunter, while the author on PokerBobby.com is Alex Hunter.

This same photo is seen on both sites.

doublingstock programmer

On DoublingStocks.com, credit is given to Carl and Michael Programming “Marl”, but on PokerBobby.com, it is James and Gary Programming “Bobby”. What are the chances that we have two sets of identical twins that can do programming? Maybe we have two brothers as well, Tom and Alex Hunter?

Does something look familiar here between the two sites?

From DoublingStocks.com:

Michael (the programmer) has insisted I include some technical details pertaining to his “masterpiece” in this article, here they are:

* Marl can process 1,986,832 mathematical calculations per second.
* As explained the more Marl is used the better his skills will become; every situation it analyses is fed back to an online “master database” which also gauges the performance of its actual stock picks. The result is a bot which is constantly perfecting its trading formula.

From PokerBobby.com:

James (the programmer) has insisted I include some technical details pertaining to his ‘masterpiece’ in this article, here they are:

* Bobby can process 1,986,832 mathematical calculations per second.
* The more Bobby is used the better his skills will become; every hand he plays is fed back to a master database which gauges his wins and defeats. Constantly perfecting how he plays.

A Whois lookup of both sites find that they are registered to one person.

Administrative Contact:
Hunter, Alex hunter.alex@gmail.com
fusionwebspace
12 Well Ridge Close
Red House Farm
Whitley Bay, Tyne and Wear NE25 9PN
United Kingdom
07835191190

Technical Contact:
Hunter, Alex hunter.alex@gmail.com
fusionwebspace
12 Well Ridge Close
Red House Farm
Whitley Bay, Tyne and Wear NE25 9PN
United Kingdom
07835191190

Feel free to use the service if you truly believe an online marketer that is promoting a rewrite of a Poker program can help you make better stock investments. Before you do that, I recommend you looking up “PokerBobby Scam” on Google. Unfortunately, since they are located in the UK, the U.S. SEC may have little or no jurisdictions. However, if there are investors in the UK using this service, I am sure it will be dealt with there.

Can you trust what the marketer is selling based on what you read on both sites? Does a Michael exist and did he ever worked for Goldman Sachs? Is the truth really an elaborate scheme and a lot of smoke being piped by a marketer? You be the judge.


http://www.oneworldincome.com/2007/12/02/stock-trading-%E2%80%9Crobot%E2%80%9D-an-online-marketer%E2%80%99s-scam-exposed/

[netwrangler]

http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums/cocktail-lounge/56655-stock-trading-robot-any-experience-anyone.html

:lol:



And now the grand finale.....the magic behind the Stock Trading Robot!!!



http://www.oneworldincome.com/2007/12/02/stock-trading-%E2%80%9Crobot%E2%80%9D-an-online-marketer%E2%80%99s-scam-exposed/

Now that's a nice piece of work, Al :!:

[stocker07]

And now the grand finale.....the magic behind the Stock Trading Robot!!!


Ohh, please stop teasing the same thing.. I already explained what is the
dealio behind all this robot BS. There is no robot! So? What is your point???
10 000 people still can move the small cap stock, guaranteed..
And upon some of the conditions met, you can make money on that..
Please stop repeating the same thing. We already know that stupid
robot is a DUMMY. WE all know that the guys getting $$$ from the companies
to pump stocks.. Can anyone with the access can publish them here in
timely manner still? We gonna make some $$$! :))

Thanks.

[stocker07]

"This is the classic “pump and dump” scheme, which is highly illegal. The online marketer behind this service and all their affiliates should be ashamed of themselves. I would not be surprised if the SEC is currently scrutinizing this service at this time. There is nothing worse than online marketers promoting a product or service in an arena that they know nothing about and skirting the laws." :confused:

Please stop this illegal crap BS. Whole Wall Street is Illegal. All of them are
criminals!!! Period! You think it's legal to devaluate USD by 50% without
people even notice it? How about Mr. Cramer. All his "carrier" all what he
is doing is "Pump & Dump"! Plenty examples to go by!
WALL STREET is whole bunch of crooks in general!
Surely those doublingstocks.com not even close to what they are advertise,
but same as the other 100 products from Clickbank.net.. Like "Free GOOGLE ADS" and on and on... I think most of you guys just jealous, that someone
can pool off something like that. Besides, not sure what it's all winning about?
Clickbank always refund money, without questions.. So you try it
for FREE and still complaining..??? Anybody can still publish their picks???

[Albert0373]

http://www.exceler8ion.com/wp-images/Chill-Pill.png

[Spa City Hawg]

http://www.exceler8ion.com/wp-images/Chill-Pill.png

:D

Classic!